Talk of The Villages Florida - Rentals, Entertainment & More
Talk of The Villages Florida - Rentals, Entertainment & More
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Just shows how good the other drivers must have been in avoiding you! |
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Just saw a Roundabout accident on Buena Vista at Rainey. It looked to me like someone was going northbound on Buena Vista and was attempting to get to Rainey from the right lane, while someone on the inside was going straight. The inside car got pushed into the north side median. The other car was getting cited.
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(just my contribution for this thread to get to 100 posts)
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I have an idea to put value into this thread. Pick which side of the fence your leaning on and categorize the opinions from various members posting on this thread. Pick the opposite side of your belief of how to navigate properly a roundabout. Then plan your roundabout trips to when the status icon identifies those members as on line - green light. If you see me in a roundabout please give a friendly wave (use all five fingers). I'll be the auto with the hockey sticks duct taped horizontally to all four fenders.
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That kind of thing is my #1 concern, but more with regards to the exit onto Buena Vista SOUTH (assuming the top of the photo is north and the bottom is south).
If Car A came in on Buena Vista from the inside lane, heading through to the southbound side of the roundabout, which he has the right to do. And Car B came in from 472 and for whatever reason, is now about to make a complete turnaround, heading the other way on 472, and therefore has to go ALL the way around the circle - and obviously that means he has to cross those dotted lines to get to the inside lane because if he stays in the right lane, he would be required to go north on Buena Vista, and wouldn't be able to complete his turn. Both cars have just entered from their perspective sides. But perhaps there's a car in front of Car A, so he is going a little slower, and car B gets onto the roundabout RIGHT when car B finally starts speeding up. Then BOOM. Accident at the southbound lane, because according to those arrows, each of them has the right to be where they are. Obviously this kind of thing (similar, not necessarily the exact same thing) happens - because if it didn't, there wouldn't be so many pages on so many threads about it. There wouldn't be article after article over the years about fender-benders (and worse) on these roundabouts. Regardless of "who is doing it wrong" the fact remains: these roundabouts are NOT clear and simple and effortless. Stop signs and street lights are clear: red means stop, green means go, yellow means slow and prepare to stop. Roundabout means go this way, unless you want to go that way, and get in this lane, unless you need to get in that lane, and never enter from this thing, and don't cross over that thing, but none of this matters if you're on THOSE two roundabouts because they're different. This is WHY there are pages upon pages on threads upon threads and articles upon articles about the problems. Because it is NOT clear. It is not effortless. It is not simple. And you're dealing with a whole lot of people in death machines who ALL think they're doing it right. |
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Simple, the right lane has to yield and if they entered the roundabout correctly never would of been beside and to rear door the left lane vehicle |
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The right lane should have stayed in the right lane, no "yielding" necessary...and should not have turned left over a solid white line. Last edited by ColdNoMore; 12-20-2018 at 09:58 PM. Reason: Clarification |
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Don’t matter, they are two lanes so the exiting traffic don’t back up in the roundabout. Which happens at some exits with only one gate off BV and I’m sure other streets also
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It’s amazing to me how some make the roundabouts so complicated. The signs approaching each one in Sumter county accurately depict what each lane can do. Once you enter the roundabout your choices are set by the lane you entered from. Right lane to first exit or straight through. Left lane straight through or continue to third exit or all the way around. That’s all. Lines in the roundabout are basically lane markers rather than traffic control indicators.
I specified Sumter because I’ve seen roundabout signs in Marion county that do not differentiate the two lanes, but just indicate the roads intersecting with a single line around. But they should be negotiated the same way.
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So the left lane can never exit. The left or right lane vehicles should never be beside each other. If traffic in either lane of roundabout the incoming traffic has to yeild, even it there no traffic in the right lane, the right lane vehicle can’t pop out and block the right way of the left lane traffic. If you enter roundabout with vehicle beside you one of you have to yield if the right lane vehicle goes to second exit. the right lane vehicle by roundabout guidelines should never go around to third exit. When I enter round about I never allow vehicle to be beside me, I speed up or slow down, use my blinker light to let people around me know which way I’m going. It really don’t matter what type of street you’re on there always going to be somebody doing something wrong or breaking laws. Roundabout no different. |
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