[blaZen]

"Son you gonna drive me to drinking, if you don't stop driving that hot rod Club Car"!

[Shimpy]

Originally Posted by flyerguy

why in the world are you in such a hurry, where are you going?

bathroom ?

[looneycat]

Originally Posted by RickeyD

I believe that street legal carts have upgraded brakes, seat belts etc. I'd rather take the 4 wheel risk over 2 wheel, if given the choice.

but legally are limited to 25 mph on the road.....why bother

[NotGolfer]

"You haven't really been "flipped off" for going the speed limit on the MMP?!"

A few years ago I was on the MMP that goes across the bridge on Morse past the police/fire garage on 466. A guy came out of the tunnel up behind me and started honking and yelling at me as he couldn't get past, due to uncoming golf-cart traffic (it was high season). Finally, I pulled over and he pulled up-stopped and began cussing me out that he was late and why didn't I go faster. My cart was the legal 19 mph and of course he left me in the "dust". I get passed all the time by folks .....

[kcrazorbackfan]

I'm digressing from the original speeding content of the OP but two things happened today that made me wonder how some people make it through the day; 1st - my wife and I were on the mmp in between Old Mill Run and Ternberry Forest Dr. heading to Palmer. We stopped at TFD to let a car enter the gate. Car #1 swiped his card, the gate comes up and he sits there. He decides to go as the gate starts down but stops before crashing through the gate. Meanwhile, car #2 pulls up and swipes her card; car #1 goes on through the gate and car #2 starts forward and here comes the gate down. She stops without crashing through and - you guessed it, here comes car #3. Finally, car #3 has enough sense to swipe his card to let car # 2 through and then swipe it again for him to go through; it was like watching the movie Groundhog Day.

2nd - on the same mmp coming from the tunnel under Stillwater Trail, two women were STANDING in the oncoming lane in the 1st curve by Mallory carrying on a conversation and a bicyclist swerves to avoid them and I have to lock it up to avoid hitting him. My wife screams at the two idiots to get off the path and all they could go was throw their hands up while oncoming carts were having to stop to keep from hitting them.

How do some people make it through the day?

[57ChevyFI]

I don't mind the 35 mile an hour golf cart compared to the most dangerous driver on the road which is the person traveling the speed limit in the passing lane. That person causes more accidents than anybody since they makes a large group of cars bunch up within feet of each other. I've never figured out why someone would stay in the passing lanes for miles beside a car going the same speed.

[patfla06]

The left lane on Morse and Buena Vista is not the passing lane.
It is a normal lane of traffic.

The passing lane is on a highway such as I-75.

[57ChevyFI]

Originally Posted by patfla06

The left lane on Morse and Buena Vista is not the passing lane.
It is a normal lane of traffic.

The passing lane is on a highway such as I-75.

Driving slowly in the fast lane is more than just annoying, it's also illegal in many states. Wanna know if your 45-mph, Buick-borne grandma is breaking the law on the interstate? Just consult our handy map.

The most popular law follows the Uniform Vehicle Code, which says a car driving below the "normal speed of traffic" should be driven in the right-hand lane. Because it indicates "normal speed" instead of saying "speed limit" a driver going above the speed limit but slower than most traffic is still in the wrong.

The states indicated in green dictate that the left lane should be used exclusively for passing or turning left, though most of these limit enforcement to multi-lane highways. The simplest and best laws simply state drivers in the left lane must always yield to faster traffic regardless of the passing car's speed or other factors.

Unfortunately, most of these laws are only enforced as a way of pulling over suspicious vehicles or passengers. This is why Georgia is in the process of passing a tougher "Slow-Poke Law" with real penalties for drivers.

1) Semantics, call the lane whatever you want to.
2) Missed the point, drinving in the "left" lane bunches up cars and makes it dangerous.

[Polar Bear]

Originally Posted by patfla06

The left lane on Morse and Buena Vista is not the passing lane.
It is a normal lane of traffic.

The passing lane is on a highway such as I-75.

As 57ChevyFI said...semantics.

The law in Florida states that slower traffic must stay in the right lane unless they are passing or about to turn left. Holding up faster traffic is illegal...irrespective of whether or not they are exceeding the speed limit.

Statutes & Constitution :View Statutes : Online Sunshine

[tuccillo]

Regarding your suggestion of not allowing vehicles with a top speed of 25 mph on 35 mph speed limit roads, I really don't see that happening. Bikes are allowed on roads with a 35 mph speed limit and few can maintain 25 mph for any length of time, let alone 35 mph. For better or for worse, the statutes allow slower moving vehicles to use the roads, including those in cars that choose to drive slower than the 35 mph speed limit. Roads are shared resources and we must accommodate the slower moving vehicles. On 4 lanes roads such as BV and Morse, we have a passing lane. Hopefully the slower moving traffic stays in the right lane.

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

While I do't agree with LSVs going 40 mph, I don't like the idea that a vehicle that's only capable of going 25 is allowed to drive on roads where the speed limit is 35.

The law should be changed one way or the other. If LSVs can do 35, then they should be allowed to. But they should also have all of the safety equipment necessary such a four wheel brakes that are necessary to stop the vehicle at that speed. I've seen golf cart with plates and
Street Legal stickers on them that don't have a solid windshield or wipers. As far as I know, they should be declared to be street legal.
As far a people's concerns about them tipping over when swerving or being struck by a vehicle weighing ten times their weight, how is that any different from a motorcycle? Should we ban motorcycles because if they get hit by a ten ton truck they are in trouble.
I say let the LSVs go 35 or 40 but also make sure that they are equipped in every way to go that speed.
But we shouldn't be allowing vehicles that can only go 25 on streets where the speed limit is 35.

[asianthree]

Originally Posted by outlaw

You haven't really been "flipped off" for going the speed limit on the MMP?!

More than once. Cart passed us and six other carts yelling at each one as they flew by. Not a SL.

[photo1902]

Originally Posted by Polar Bear

As 57ChevyFI said...semantics.

The law in Florida states that slower traffic must stay in the right lane unless they are passing or about to turn left. Holding up faster traffic is illegal...irrespective of whether or not they are exceeding the speed limit.

Statutes & Constitution :View Statutes : Online Sunshine

Or, you can do what most of us do on Morse, BV, 466, etc. You use the left lane to do the speed limit. If you see someone come up behind you (who is speeding, incidentally) you move over and let them by. Perfectly legal, except of course the person who is exceeding the speed limit.

(3) On a road, street, or highway having two or more lanes allowing movement in the same direction, a driver may not continue to operate a motor vehicle in the furthermost left-hand lane if the driver knows or reasonably should know that he or she is being overtaken in that lane from the rear by a motor vehicle traveling at a higher rate of speed. This subsection does not apply to drivers operating a vehicle that is overtaking another vehicle proceeding in the same direction, or is preparing for a left turn at an intersection.

[GaryW]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

This was NOT LSV by design. IT WAS GOLF CART with Plate on it just like the one I have with NO 4 wheel Hydraulic BRAKES and Yes I could see through the mag wheels it didn't have disk brakes. I See Club Cars which are even cheaper made clocking along at 30.

[GaryW]

Originally Posted by Walter123

Don't comment if you don't know what a LSV is.

Preaching to the Choir,, Was born at night,, but not LAST NIGHT

[GaryW]

The 2015 Florida Statutes


Title XXIII
MOTOR VEHICLES
Chapter 316
STATE UNIFORM TRAFFIC CONTROL
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316.2122 Operation of a low-speed vehicle or mini truck on certain roadways.—The operation of a low-speed vehicle as defined in s. 320.01 or a mini truck as defined in s. 320.01 on any road is authorized with the following restrictions:
(1) A low-speed vehicle or mini truck may be operated only on streets where the posted speed limit is 35 miles per hour or less. This does not prohibit a low-speed vehicle or mini truck from crossing a road or street at an intersection where the road or street has a posted speed limit of more than 35 miles per hour.
(2) A low-speed vehicle must be equipped with headlamps, stop lamps, turn signal lamps, taillamps, reflex reflectors, parking brakes, rearview mirrors, windshields, seat belts, and vehicle identification numbers.
(3) A low-speed vehicle or mini truck must be registered and insured in accordance with s. 320.02 and titled pursuant to chapter 319.
(4) Any person operating a low-speed vehicle or mini truck must have in his or her possession a valid driver license.
(5) A county or municipality may prohibit the operation of low-speed vehicles or mini trucks on any road under its jurisdiction if the governing body of the county or municipality determines that such prohibition is necessary in the interest of safety.
(6) The Department of Transportation may prohibit the operation of low-speed vehicles or mini trucks on any road under its jurisdiction if it determines that such prohibition is necessary in the interest of safety.
History.—s. 1, ch. 99-163; s. 5, ch. 2009-183; s. 85, ch. 2012-174; s. 78, ch. 2013-160.