[Walter123]

Originally Posted by GaryW

Preaching to the Choir,, Was born at night,, but not LAST NIGHT

You do know that my comment was to red tail in response to their comment to you and not directed to you, right? Because it seems like you thought I was slamming you. I wasn't.

[rubicon]

This thread is a predictable repeat just as round-a-bouts, slow pace of play golfers, idiot car drivers . And with a few word substitutes your going to read the same comments.

The reality is that The Villages vast expansion and the increase in the number of golf carts equate to growing pangs . Sensible adaptations must be achieved.

Bureaucrats like rules for the sake of rules. Rules should consider unintended consequences. Golf cart drivers are traveling greater distances now . Safety is always the first consideration . Passing a slow moving cart is no different than passing a slowing moving car. It is an essential option to prevent bottlenecks The operative word in passing is "safe passing".

Speed limit is a goldilock term too slow and bottlenecks and agitated drivers materialize. Too fast and safety is breached. So we seek just right. The Villages brags about the miles and miles of multi-modal paths. People talk about top speeds but never seem to consider the average speed attained on multi-modal paths. They seem more aware of the pace of play than average speeds on multi-modal paths?

A black Yamaha going 40 mph on Buena Vista sheds no light on the reality of what is occurring on multi-modal pathways.

[twoplanekid]

Originally Posted by rubicon

This thread is a predictable repeat just as round-a-bouts, slow pace of play golfers, idiot car drivers . And with a few word substitutes your going to read the same comments.

The reality is that The Villages vast expansion and the increase in the number of golf carts equate to growing pangs . Sensible adaptations must be achieved.

Bureaucrats like rules for the sake of rules. Rules should consider unintended consequences. Golf cart drivers are traveling greater distances now . Safety is always the first consideration . Passing a slow moving cart is no different than passing a slowing moving car. It is an essential option to prevent bottlenecks The operative word in passing is "safe passing".

Speed limit is a goldilock term too slow and bottlenecks and agitated drivers materialize. Too fast and safety is breached. So we seek just right. The Villages brags about the miles and miles of multi-modal paths. People talk about top speeds but never seem to consider the average speed attained on multi-modal paths. They seem more aware of the pace of play than average speeds on multi-modal paths?

A black Yamaha going 40 mph on Buena Vista sheds no light on the reality of what is occurring on multi-modal pathways.

I agree!

As technology is available to gather golf cart speed data on the multi-modal paths, why is there no data collected? Everyone seems to place bets on how fast everyone is going. I agree with the reality that as TV grows more people will be using golf carts and the distances traveled will increase. Thus, the chances of bad things happening may also increase. How can TV address golf cart safety under the premise of “don’t need no stinking rules”?

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan

I'm digressing from the original speeding content of the OP but two things happened today that made me wonder how some people make it through the day; 1st - my wife and I were on the mmp in between Old Mill Run and Ternberry Forest Dr. heading to Palmer. We stopped at TFD to let a car enter the gate. Car #1 swiped his card, the gate comes up and he sits there. He decides to go as the gate starts down but stops before crashing through the gate. Meanwhile, car #2 pulls up and swipes her card; car #1 goes on through the gate and car #2 starts forward and here comes the gate down. She stops without crashing through and - you guessed it, here comes car #3. Finally, car #3 has enough sense to swipe his card to let car # 2 through and then swipe it again for him to go through; it was like watching the movie Groundhog Day.

2nd - on the same mmp coming from the tunnel under Stillwater Trail, two women were STANDING in the oncoming lane in the 1st curve by Mallory carrying on a conversation and a bicyclist swerves to avoid them and I have to lock it up to avoid hitting him. My wife screams at the two idiots to get off the path and all they could go was throw their hands up while oncoming carts were having to stop to keep from hitting them.

How do some people make it through the day?

Sounds like the walkers were "taking the lane". I like the person that parks their cart on the MMP while visiting with a walker. They think the MMP is a sidewalk where one can just stop anywhere and chat.

[Polar Bear]

Originally Posted by photo1902

...Or, you can do what most of us do on Morse, BV, 466, etc. You use the left lane to do the speed limit. If you see someone come up behind you (who is speeding, incidentally) you move over and let them by. Perfectly legal, except of course the person who is exceeding the speed limit..

To me the question that your description begs is...even if legal, if you're not about to pass a vehicle, and you're not about to turn left, why do you stay in the left lane? I seriously doubt that "most of us" do so.

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by Polar Bear

Personally I think that is a very reasonable way to drive Morse and BV. Except if you followed the link and read it, it IS technically illegal.

But to me the question that your description begs is...if your not about to pass a vehicle, and your not about to turn left...either of which would make your left-lane driving legal...why do you stay in the left lane??

To continue on the main road through the next RAB.

[Polar Bear]

Originally Posted by rubicon

This thread is a predictable repeat just as round-a-bouts, slow pace of play golfers, idiot car drivers...

As is yours.

And yes...this one of mine too.

[Polar Bear]

Originally Posted by outlaw

To continue on the main road through the next RAB.

You mean just like you can do in the right lane?

[photo1902]

Originally Posted by Polar Bear

You mean just like you can do in the right lane?

Why not take it? Its an open lane, which is completely legal to use. Let me guess, you would rather have every single car and truck use the right lane all the time? Absurd. And do you think these roads were designed to have the left lane use to "pass" other vehicles? I understand people driving slower than the speed limit who stay in the left lane is wrong, but we're not talking about I75 or the Turnpike. We are talking about roads in the densely packed Villages. Simply makes sense to use both available lanes.

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by Polar Bear

You mean just like you can do in the right lane?

Yes. Except, in the right lane, you are crossing into the left lane that is also going right in the RAB. In the event of an accident, you will most likely be ticketed for not yielding to the car in the left lane.

[Walter123]

I stay in the left lane going the speed limit in TV for safety reasons plus, I like being one of the old people that I used to yell at when I was young! If you're in that much of a hurry that this bothers you then even better! LOL

[Polar Bear]

Originally Posted by photo1902

...Let me guess, you would rather have every single car and truck use the right lane all the time?...

Your guess is totally wrong. Every single car and truck using the right lane is absurd...and you're the only one talking about it. Nobody is talking about not using both lanes...except you.

Originally Posted by photo1902

...Simply makes sense to use both available lanes.

To use them, yes. To simply cruise at all times in the left lane...not so much.

[photo1902]

Originally Posted by Polar Bear

Your guess is totally wrong. Every single car and truck using the right lane is absurd...and you're the only one talking about it. Nobody is talking about not using both lanes...except you.

To use them, yes. To simply cruise at all times in the left lane...not so much.

We will agree to disagree on this point. I didn't realize I had to be in one specific lane if I was going to "cruise"

[Polar Bear]

Originally Posted by outlaw

Yes. Except, in the right lane, you are crossing into the left lane that is also going right in the RAB. In the event of an accident, you will most likely be ticketed for not yielding to the car in the left lane.

Everyone entering a roundabout from any lane is required to yield to all traffic in the roundabout in any lane. So if you are hit by a car turning right from the inside lane, you SHOULD be ticketed. You have caused the accident by not yielding.

Forgetting that for a minute, your 'logic' still makes no sense. If you enter the roundabout from the left lane, you are crossing the right (outside) lane of the roundabout...twice in fact, entering and exiting. You have not reduced your potential conflicts in any way. In fact you have increased them.

Of course the potential conflicts don't matter anyway if you simply obey the first rule...yield to all traffic in the roundabout. Then you are safe whichever lane you choose.

[Walter123]

Originally Posted by photo1902

We will agree to disagree on this point. I didn't realize I had to be in one specific lane if I was going to "cruise"

Yeah, maybe PB should tell us what kind of car he drives so we can get out of his way no matter what lane he is in!