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Old 03-28-2023, 10:03 AM
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BostonRich,
Problem 1- leave the change for the bartender. problem solved. As for your drawer full of change-- Before moving down here Itook all my change to my back and used the coin machine. It came to several hundred dollars. If you deposit into your account with the voucher, I believe you're not charged the 3 or 5 %. Or was it the voucher for certain stores. Can't remember.
Problem 2- Agree, all town squares happy hour and times should be the same.
Problem 3-- Don't know much about the sun because I never stayed long enough or even sat there to watch the entertainment. In my opinion, a poor design. The parking area is not big enough to accommodate all the cars and carts. The venue area is also not large enough either to accommodate all the people and forget about making your way up front to dance! Maybe it's not like that at all times, but the few times I went that was the deal! I understand they wanted to try something new, but by far, the other "town squares" are MUCH nicer. If they wanted some change, how about designing some of the recreation centers differently. They are ALL the same footprint! (Fenny might be slightly different) But best pool!!
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Old 03-28-2023, 11:01 AM
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Went to Sawgrass Grove last night. There were a few things that were unexpected.

First I got change back at the bar. Do they charge a sales tax on a $3.99 beer? Different county I know but why couldn't they build the sales tax into the cost of the beer to make things easier? I got a drawer full of change that I never use and don't really want. We don't get change back in Spanish Springs. A minor complaint I know.

We went for the Happy Hour and were surprised that the Happy Hour ended not started at 5 PM! Wouldn't it make more sense to standardize the times at all "squares"? Wasn't that the excuse for shortening the two hour Happy Hour at Spanish Springs? The beers are one size only BTW (small). Semi-major complaint.

But biggest surprise of all was the simple orientation of the square. It was impossible to watch the entertainment without having the setting sun burn your eyes out. They built these enormous sun and rain sails to protect the audience but they do not. You pretty much look into the sun during the entire performance. The sails are too far back and there is a huge gap over the boxcar and the stage roof.

So my thoughts are if you have an absolutely blank sheet of paper to build your brand new entertainment venue you should be able to easily orient the structures to take advantage of the physical laws of nature. The Druids did it. Why can't the Villages? Have the stage on the NE side not the SW side. This is March. In the summer it is going to get really miserable.
Wow, I didn't know anybody paid in cash anymore; use plastic and solve your spare change problem. Why not ask the waitress about the sales tax? As for the sun, the sun's position in the sky is not fixed nor is the time of sundown.
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Old 03-28-2023, 11:39 AM
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Went to Sawgrass Grove last night. There were a few things that were unexpected.

First I got change back at the bar. Do they charge a sales tax on a $3.99 beer? Different county I know but why couldn't they build the sales tax into the cost of the beer to make things easier? I got a drawer full of change that I never use and don't really want. We don't get change back in Spanish Springs. A minor complaint I know.

We went for the Happy Hour and were surprised that the Happy Hour ended not started at 5 PM! Wouldn't it make more sense to standardize the times at all "squares"? Wasn't that the excuse for shortening the two hour Happy Hour at Spanish Springs? The beers are one size only BTW (small). Semi-major complaint.

But biggest surprise of all was the simple orientation of the square. It was impossible to watch the entertainment without having the setting sun burn your eyes out. They built these enormous sun and rain sails to protect the audience but they do not. You pretty much look into the sun during the entire performance. The sails are too far back and there is a huge gap over the boxcar and the stage roof.

So my thoughts are if you have an absolutely blank sheet of paper to build your brand new entertainment venue you should be able to easily orient the structures to take advantage of the physical laws of nature. The Druids did it. Why can't the Villages? Have the stage on the NE side not the SW side. This is March. In the summer it is going to get really miserable.
I’ll take your change off your hands for free. Just tell me where and when. I’ll bring a bucket you can keep the drawer.
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Old 03-28-2023, 11:47 AM
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the sun will move. Well, the sun doesn’t move, we do. It’s called heliocentric motion. Be patient and enjoy the sunsets. There are more behind us than in front of us…
exactly. Sun is not rising or descending. We on planet earth are changing our position relative to it. So the sun " appears to be rising or falling".
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Old 03-28-2023, 12:44 PM
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I love the continued innovation. Went with a family member to look at home's at Middleton. People are going to be flabbergasted when they see in person the schools, parks and town center.
Flabbergasted in a good way or…?
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Interesting observation.

Maybe it will get better as the sun sets later and further south.
Sun moves north in the summer and south in the winter in the northern hemisphere.
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Old 03-28-2023, 01:12 PM
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Flabbergasted in a good way or…?
In a very good way.

Sneak peek of the high school - Middleton

Housing affordability and variety - Middleton
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Old 03-28-2023, 01:52 PM
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As for the sun, the sun's position in the sky is not fixed nor is the time of sundown.
You are absolutely right of course but I bet you it will always set in the west behind the stage between the hours of 5PM and 9PM every night. Just guessing.
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Old 03-28-2023, 02:00 PM
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Thumbs down Sales tax

Every restaurant and bar has sales tax. It is the law. Why would you think one bar would change that for your convince? Is this really something to complain about?
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Old 03-28-2023, 02:40 PM
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Movement is relative to your frame of reference. The sun is not fixed in space.
The sun is the same in a relative way but you're older. Shorter of breath and one day closer to death.

Life is too short. Bark less. Wag more.
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Old 03-28-2023, 03:50 PM
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The sun is the same in a relative way but you're older. Shorter of breath and one day closer to death.
I see what you did there...
I often enjoy going to Sawgrass, ticking away the moments that make up a dull day.
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Old 03-28-2023, 06:17 PM
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Wow, I didn't know anybody paid in cash anymore
We ALWAYS pay in cash at every place we eat or drink.

A couple years ago, some people were at Fenney grill and used a credit card to pay for their meal but gave the server a tip in cash. They later found the manager had added a tip to their credit card and they were NOT happy.

We use our credit card at Publix and Walgreens and Wal-Mart where the card does not leave our hand.
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Old 03-28-2023, 07:46 PM
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We enjoy Sawgrass happy hour. Where else can you get a Miller Lite for $2? The pizza and the burgers are good.
Lots of places in the village
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Old 03-28-2023, 08:33 PM
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There's a petition circulating related to the sound system.

502 Bad Gateway

Another solution ($$$) that would help the sun and sound issue would be to swap locations of the stage and bar.

That way, the golf carts could pull right up to the bar ...

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Old 03-28-2023, 08:39 PM
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I find the acoustics at Sawgrass to be very poor.
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