[Becca9800]

DH posted an ad to sell his Harley. Received a text, "willing to pay full price for your bike. I am in the Army and deployed to Fort Huachuca in AZ. I may not be able to see the motorcycle personally, are you sure it is in mint condition? I can't speak w you bc phone calls are currently restricted. I can send funds via PayPal, do you have a PayPal account? I will have a mover pick up bike after funds clear your account, he will handle title for me." Our alarms were sounding loudly, so many things wrong with his offer. I asked, "what is your rank? What unit are you assigned to? Who is your commanding officer? I have a grandson serving in the Army who said the offer could be legit and if it is they'll be no problem providing us w the requested info. We then could call the base to ensure it was legit. We never received a response from the would be buyer.

Can you point out all the wrongs with the buyer's story?

[Two Bills]

The PayPal payment will reach your account.
Then you part with the bike.
Shortly after, scammer will inform PayPal that he has not received his purchase.
PayPal will refund him as you will not have proof of postage or receipt of goods.
All the signed paper work for the bike is useless, without proof of post and delivery.
This scam is used a lot as well with eBay, when goods are available for collection.
Whenever you get any offer like this where goods will be picked up by a representative of the buyer, tell them to send cash with the collector.
PayPal protects the buyer, not the seller, unless seller adheres to ALL the term and conditions of sale.

[Two Bills]

A usefull site of PayPal scams.

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[retiredguy123]

I would like to know how the Army could possibly prevent a soldier from using their cell phone.

[Becca9800]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

I would like to know how the Army could possibly prevent a soldier from using their cell phone.

Grandson said phone restrictions are possible if the soldier was in a special training program. I found it interesting that this "soldier" could send texts but not make calls.
The whole thing stunk.

[vintageogauge]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

The PayPal payment will reach your account.
Then you part with the bike.
Shortly after, scammer will inform PayPal that he has not received his purchase.
PayPal will refund him as you will not have proof of postage or receipt of goods.
All the signed paper work for the bike is useless, without proof of post and delivery.
This scam is used a lot as well with eBay, when goods are available for collection.
Whenever you get any offer like this where goods will be picked up by a representative of the buyer, tell them to send cash with the collector.
PayPal protects the buyer, not the seller, unless seller adheres to ALL the term and conditions of sale.

No worries if he pays Friends and Family, no buyer/seller involved.

[Tmarkwald]

yep, there is also the 'Certified Check' scam.

Anybody buying anything sight unseen is generally a scam, especially if it s motor vehicle.

[J1ceasar]

Would you buy anything sight unseen? I used to get these all the time, and have you even gotten a few checks via FedEx. Even if it's certified all it takes is a rubber stamp for 10 bucks made on Amazon. When I did get these checks I would call the so-called Bank and they would always tell me there's no account or there are no funds in the account or simply say you should rip it up. By the way I've reported this to the FBI and the postal service and never had any action taken

[banjobob]

SCAM. SCAM tell them cash only , scammers look for higher priced items for sale and use the mostly that same story. Cash or NO sale period.

[rlsjks1987@gmail.com]

No more discussion needed!!! This is a scam!! End of story!!!

[Girlcopper]

Originally Posted by rlsjks1987@gmail.com

No more discussion needed!!! This is a scam!! End of story!!!

I know! Its a scam like 9000 others out there. It. was an obvious scam from the first contact with him. Besides, even if it was legit, he has the option of not selling to him if hes uncomfortable with the situation. I wouldnt waste my time asking 50 questions that you know you wont get an answer to.

[mark100]

Tell the guy, Cash, Face to Face Deal only. It is a scam. Not worth the price of your Harley. I always include that statement on anything I am selling. I have treceived a similar offer from a potential buyer.

No sir. Cash, Face to Face sale only.

[Shutterbug]

Originally Posted by Becca9800

DH posted an ad to sell his Harley. Received a text, "willing to pay full price for your bike. I am in the Army and deployed to Fort Huachuca in AZ. I may not be able to see the motorcycle personally, are you sure it is in mint condition? I can't speak w you bc phone calls are currently restricted. I can send funds via PayPal, do you have a PayPal account? I will have a mover pick up bike after funds clear your account, he will handle title for me." Our alarms were sounding loudly, so many things wrong with his offer. I asked, "what is your rank? What unit are you assigned to? Who is your commanding officer? I have a grandson serving in the Army who said the offer could be legit and if it is they'll be no problem providing us w the requested info. We then could call the base to ensure it was legit. We never received a response from the would be buyer.

Can you point out all the wrongs with the buyer's story?

I had a similar thing happen for an item advertised on Next Door here in TV.

[Joe C.]

I advertised a Spyder (motorcycle) online, and got an offer from a guy in Tucson, Arizona. We communicated by phone and email. I told him that I was wary of his offer being a scam. He gave me references (which I didn't bother to check), sent me a healthy deposit (which I cashed), and he arranged shipping and put me in contact with the shipper. He sent me the balance and the shipper picked up the Spyder a few weeks later, and all was well. When he received the Spyder, he emailed me. He was happy, and so was I.
I was leery at first, but when the deposit cleared, I felt better.
But you have to be careful. Due diligence is required.

[Don5154]

Originally Posted by Becca9800

DH posted an ad to sell his Harley. Received a text, "willing to pay full price for your bike. I am in the Army and deployed to Fort Huachuca in AZ. I may not be able to see the motorcycle personally, are you sure it is in mint condition? I can't speak w you bc phone calls are currently restricted. I can send funds via PayPal, do you have a PayPal account? I will have a mover pick up bike after funds clear your account, he will handle title for me." Our alarms were sounding loudly, so many things wrong with his offer. I asked, "what is your rank? What unit are you assigned to? Who is your commanding officer? I have a grandson serving in the Army who said the offer could be legit and if it is they'll be no problem providing us w the requested info. We then could call the base to ensure it was legit. We never received a response from the would be buyer.

Can you point out all the wrongs with the buyer's story?

“Deployed to Ft Huachuca”.........that’s the first red flag. Never saw anyone get deployed to a Ft in the US. 🤦