[buggyone]

Originally Posted by sr1436

You should report the Community Watch person. Even if he/she is correct there is no reason for them to yell. If you don't do something the person will continue to do the same thing again.

Remember that one person's definition of "yelling" will not necessarily be the same as another. Calling loudly in an informative voice may be construed as yelling by some. Screaming in a ranting tone is yelling to others.

[Topspinmo]

Yes Lovey2 you are unique and you paid amenities fees like everybody else. I think it BS also the MM paths are restricting personal transportation. 49cc Scooters no more that bike with VERY small engine, let us know what you find out. I wouldn't want to be on Morse Blvd. or BV with 49cc scooter.

[Lovey2]

Thanks all. It appears that "they" think it is or should be (?) illegal to use it on the paths. I'm not one for breaking the rules either, but may hafta "overlook" this one, if you will, like the lawn ornaments, say. (good example) It absolutely makes no sense and NO, I would not want my husband out driving on Morse, 466, or BV on that scooter.
That being said, usually I give people the benefit of the doubt in the whole "yelling" issue as far as reporting goes...but I still am entitled to my "on the inside" (or TOTV) opinion. I don't like to hastily report, I worked in Customer Service for too many years, and you never know what that person's day is like. Usually, I say the first one's on me...
Again, thanks for all the support and answers and good advice. I think we will just carry on unless we hear from some residents (doubtful) or carters on the paths!

[TrudyM]

Now if a scooter had three wheels and a holder for the clubs and didn't go over 20 mph who is to say it isn't a golf cart. I was looking at one I saw on the net and thought it was cool it was 50cc and three wheels kinda stretched so a golf bag fit just behind the driver. Don't know who sells such a thing just saw the pic and thought it was cool I can't find it now to post though.

[Lovey2]

Originally Posted by TrudyM

Now if a scooter had three wheels and a holder for the clubs and didn't go over 20 mph who is to say it isn't a golf cart. I was looking at one I saw on the net and thought it was cool it was 50cc and three wheels kinda stretched so a golf bag fit just behind the driver. Don't know who sells such a thing just saw the pic and thought it was cool I can't find it now to post though.

That would be kinda cool. We did look at those new-ish 3 wheeled cycles and they are fairly expensive, $15,000. I'm gonna look too, cause I'd even drive that. If I find it, I'll send it to ya.

[Lovey2]

50cc Mojo Trike Scooter Moped - Limited availability

TrudyM...here's a scooter I found on the site where we got ours. Very cute , double the price, tho.

[sailor47]

I don't understand all the concern about riding a scooter on the roads. The issue with scooters and motorcycles is visibility. They are hard to see compared to a car. 50 cc Scooters will reach or exceed 45 depending on the load and or hill. They should be just as safe as a motorcycle on our local roads. They are small compared to cars so in an accident you loose. Same holds for motorcycles. You just simply must ride with your eyes open both the ones in front and behind (mirrors).
A really bright led tail and head light should be on all the time.
As a high schooler I drove my Honda 50 all over Kentucky and Ohio on summer vacations. Never had an accident. Relax and enjoy the wind in your hair but keep those eyes open.
The trouble with using cart paths is that the scooter is much faster than anything else on the path. Not saying you would go that fast but any accident may be on you to prove you weren't going too fast. Just Say-in.

[Lovey2]

Originally Posted by sailor47

I don't understand all the concern about riding a scooter on the roads. The issue with scooters and motorcycles is visibility. They are hard to see compared to a car. 50 cc Scooters will reach or exceed 45 depending on the load and or hill. They should be just as safe as a motorcycle on our local roads. They are small compared to cars so in an accident you loose. Same holds for motorcycles. You just simply must ride with your eyes open both the ones in front and behind (mirrors).
A really bright led tail and head light should be on all the time.
As a high schooler I drove my Honda 50 all over Kentucky and Ohio on summer vacations. Never had an accident. Relax and enjoy the wind in your hair but keep those eyes open.
The trouble with using cart paths is that the scooter is much faster than anything else on the path. Not saying you would go that fast but any accident may be on you to prove you weren't going too fast. Just Say-in.

True...MANY (many, many) years ago I used to drive a little moped around in SW Philly. It wasn't as dense as Philly proper and I was fine. BUT...there weren't many SUV's then, or big ole Escalades, or for that matter, round-abouts, snowbirds, and condensed elderly. Nahhhh, I'd do a motorcycle on the roads, but not this little scooter. Hell, I've seen the Street Legal carts on the road, and cars just itching to get by them or cut them off. Lived this many years with all my bones intact...gonna try hard to keep 'em as they are! (and, yes, I'm a chicken!) You are right about the paths, tho. Will keep it in mind...

[Topspinmo]

Sailor 47 said "The trouble with using cart paths is that the scooter is much faster than anything else on the path. Not saying you would go that fast but any accident may be on you to prove you weren't going too fast.

I'll have to disagree with that statement here's why IMO " Most cheap 49 CC scooter won't go 45 MPH unless they are modified. Even 125CC scooter has hard time breaking 55 unless it's modified. That's the problem they won't be able to keep up with traffic on the BLVD. or Highways cause NOBODY drives 25 or 35 MPH is speed Zones. and when the speed zone is 40 or 45 that means 50 or 55 for most drivers. remember the thread about some one driving the speed limit in the left lanes.

Just saying I got passed by 70% of the soup-up Golf cart going 19 MPH on the MM path, Then there are the street legal carts that approach 30 Plus MPH if you drive with you foot to the floor. Which NOBODY drives like that except for Law breakers. SO your statement about 49CC mopeds are not 50CC motorcycles that have gears, 49cc scooters are Belt driven CVT's single speed with adults weighing much more than average teens (135 pound give or take) are much faster don't hold much water IMO.

I guess Lovey2 you could check the rules and get you mini-bike? The lawn mower engine probably got more power and torque than the scooter anyway. It's not street legal as scooter's or motorcycle's are?.

[e-flyer]

Originally Posted by OpusX1

I see scooters on the trail often. I think what is allowed on the trail is a very grey area. I see cars on the trail, scooters, lawn mowers, mobility scooters, walkers, skaters. Bicycle's, tricycle's, stand up scooters, electric bikes, wheel chairs both powered and manual, segway's, skate boards. On my scooter I stay on the road.

Yes, I've seen all of these mentioned as well. I even saw a mobility scooter cross 441/27 at a light leading to Spanish Springs. for them!

[VT2TV]

Originally Posted by Lovey2

Thanks!! Yeah, maybe he'll use it on the road after season. A lot of craziness out there right now.

: shrug:

I have no idea what the rules are, but I guess my question for the persons using the multi-modal paths would be::::::::do you at any time ride/drive the ________________ (fill in the blank) on the actual street, other than just when necessary to get to the next MM pathway? Do you ever drive outside the villages using the ___? If you do, then my opinion is that it should not be used on the MM pathways. If it is never driven anywhere other than the MM pathways, then it is my opinion that it would be okay on the MM.


Now having said that, I am just giving MY OPINION, and do not pretend to know what the rules actually are. I just think the MM paths are crowded enough, and if you can drive on the roads, you should, I don't like how people swithch back and forth, and people who have vehicles that can go over 19 miles per hour very seldom switch them back to a safe speed for the MM's, and that is unsafe for whoever is using the MM paths. I also don't know, but suspect that the personal "home scooters" and the segways are suposed to be riding on streets or public roads anyhow, which would mean, again my opinion, that they shouldn't be on the paths to start with.

Again, these arejust my opinions...do not have any idea what the rules are.

[TheVillageChicken]

I think this is about as close to an answer as you will get, and it looks like your scooter is not allowed on the mm paths because it is defined as a "motor vehicle."

Memo from Janet Tutt regarding Multi-Modal Paths

[Lovey2]

Yeah, thanks I saw that. Our scooter is very small, 49CC as I said, and is never used on the street, only on the lane for GC, and the paths. I DO see others on the paths, and rec centers. We DO NOT exceed the speed limit. Since the question seems to be SPEED, I think that the Street Legal carts shouldn't be allowed on the paths then. Anyhow, I think we'll just keep on keepin' on and see what happens. WE are infrequently on the paths anyway, mostly on the cart lane on the street to rec centers.

[TheVillageChicken]

Originally Posted by Lovey2

Yeah, thanks I saw that. Our scooter is very small, 49CC as I said, and is never used on the street, only on the lane for GC, and the paths. I DO see others on the paths, and rec centers. We DO NOT exceed the speed limit. Since the question seems to be SPEED, I think that the Street Legal carts shouldn't be allowed on the paths then. Anyhow, I think we'll just keep on keepin' on and see what happens. WE are infrequently on the paths anyway, mostly on the cart lane on the street to rec centers.

Well, since the memo states that neither the CDD nor the sheriff has traffic enforcement jurisdiction over the mm paths, I guess the issue is moot anyway. Note that the Sumter County Sheriff is the one quoted. Marion may have a different interpretation.

[e-flyer]

The issue as I see it is, how does anyone know by looking at a moped/scooter whether it's engine displacement is under 50cc? As the memo states, they are allowed on the MM path if you pedal it. In my opinion if anything motorized has a maximum speed of 20 mph it should be allowed….but I don't make the rules.