[Gettingoutofdodge]

Originally Posted by Madee

This post is from 2023:
SECO switching to time of day billing

It was a heads up for Villagers, and the OP was spot on in predicting that the first step would be to switch out our current meters. They have been switching them out, as far as I am aware, since early April 2023.

Does anyone know if they are doing this to start utilizing “Time of Day” billing? It’s where customers are billed higher rates during peak hours of the day, and lower rates during off-peak times.

I am use to time of day billing because that is how they billed for electric in my home on Staten Island. It wasn’t an issue in the winter but in the summer months when the AC was on, it made a difference. I did laundry and used the dishwasher during off peak hours. I still start the dishwasher and do laundry in the evening. I don’t do both at the same time. Maybe my bill will go down? The electric here is much cheaper than what I paid in NY. They are installing my new meter soon, so we shall see.

[New Englander]

If a person is not home when Seco shows up at their house to replace the meter. I would assume they have to kill the power to the house. When they turn the power back on can you get a power surge?

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by New Englander

If a person is not home when Seco shows up at their house to replace the meter. I would assume they have to kill the power to the house. When they turn the power back on can you get a power surge?

The notice I received said there was no need to be home and there would be a short outage during the replacement. That all makes sense - the meter is outside the home so they don't need me and no power would flow while the meter was removed.

There would be no more surge than with any other power outage.

[asianthree]

Originally Posted by New Englander

If a person is not home when Seco shows up at their house to replace the meter. I would assume they have to kill the power to the house. When they turn the power back on can you get a power surge?

Originally Posted by Bill14564

The notice I received said there was no need to be home and there would be a short outage during the replacement. That all makes sense - the meter is outside the home so they don't need me and no power would flow while the meter was removed.

There would be no more surge than with any other power outage.

Our meter was replaced yesterday. Knock on the door, card on the door. By the time I got to the door and outside meter was already changed. Lost power for less than 2 minutes. Took another minute for power, pool equipment and WiFi to return. Have set up their website, to build profile that will provide enhanced user data. Not sure what that entails since it may take up to 60 for data integration, to view daily usage, and other info.

Other than the evil reset of clock on range and one old clock. It was painless. Very nice young man in a seco truck, with identification. I needed to check if pool equipment needed shut down first. That was a No, then took a few minutes to answer couple other questions.
The meter part itself isn’t large. It was changed very quickly..

[Toymeister]

I was the OP who predicted this in 2023. At the time I was roundly criticized.

The truth comes at you in small pieces. At first Seco denied this, now a year later the masses are starting to see this come to fruition. It is bitter sweet to be vindicated.

Seco is changing because their rates are set by peak hour usage. They aren't time of day billing yet, but they don't have the capability to. Once they do, by installing the new meters, I expect now as I thought in 2023, to be on time of day billing.

Ask yourself this, if this is not the plan why install new meters at all? Sure this eliminates the need for meter readers but smart meters can do so much more. Why not use time of day billing; the capability will be easily turned on.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Toymeister

I was the OP who predicted this in 2023. At the time I was roundly criticized.

The truth comes at you in small pieces. At first Seco denied this, now a year later the masses are starting to see this come to fruition. It is bitter sweet to be vindicated.

Seco is changing because their rates are set by peak hour usage. They aren't time of day billing yet, but they don't have the capability to. Once they do, by installing the new meters, I expect now as I thought in 2023, to be on time of day billing.

Ask yourself this, if this is not the plan why install new meters at all? Sure this eliminates the need for meter readers but smart meters can do so much more. Why not use time of day billing; the capability will be easily turned on.

I didn't see it as you being roundly criticized though there was some skepticism, particularly when a SECO rep denied the move.

The Time of Use (TOU) rates are in section 9.1 of the SECO rate tariff published on 5/1/24. That section is dated 12/1/21 so perhaps it also existed in a previous tariff. It looks like you were off by 1 cent for the SOP rate (7 cents vs 6 cents) but all the other numbers you reported were dead on.

The tariff still shows this as an optional rate. We'll have to see how long it remains optional once the meter replacement has been completed.

[maryhermann]

I have an EV. I also have solar panels. I tried to ask SECO if it would be advantageous for me to charge during the day using my solar panels or sign up for their EV program and the $7 credit to charge at night. Of course they could not answer my question. I decided to go with the night charging of the car figuring I could cancel it at any time if I decided I didn't feel it was advantageous. At the moment it seems to be working to my advantage. The highest paying times in the summer are only 4 p.m. to 6 p.m. Kind of right when you would be cooking supper!!!! Lowest prices start at midnight. I do my wash and dishwasher during the day before 4, utilizing hopefully my solar capabilities.

[derkster]

Health Risks Posed by Smartmeters - Environmental Health Trust
You may want to start with this article and do some research on the subject.
This has been an ongoing issue for years in this country.
How much is your health worth to you? Unless they charge us less by the elimination of meter reader jobs
they should not charge us 40.00 to reject the smart meters.

[Pugchief]

Originally Posted by derkster

Health Risks Posed by Smartmeters - Environmental Health Trust
You may want to start with this article and do some research on the subject.
This has been an ongoing issue for years in this country.
How much is your health worth to you? Unless they charge us less by the elimination of meter reader jobs
they should not charge us 40.00 to reject the smart meters.

From the linked article: The radiation generated by smartmeters is the same type as generated by your cell phone- radiofrequency radiation.

Let me know when everyone gives up their cell phone. And WiFi for that matter, which also emits radiation of questionable health.

[Pugchief]

I am on hourly pricing UpNorth. I have also owned a Tesla for 5 years. Not sure what everyone is afraid of; you can save a fortune on electricity with a few minor changes in habit. Afternoon A/C is the one exception.

[ShabbyChick]

These Smart Meters emit high doses of radiation. Be sure to learn more before you switch. There are several covers that block the radiation as well as wallpaper.

Fran

Originally Posted by Madee

This post is from 2023:
SECO switching to time of day billing

It was a heads up for Villagers, and the OP was spot on in predicting that the first step would be to switch out our current meters. They have been switching them out, as far as I am aware, since early April 2023.

Does anyone know if they are doing this to start utilizing “Time of Day” billing? It’s where customers are billed higher rates during peak hours of the day, and lower rates during off-peak times.

[MorTech]

Oh No!!! RF Radiation!!! We.Are.All.Going.To.Die!!!

[Sabella]

Originally Posted by Chamo

Well so much for saving money. As I had the new meter put in in my electric bill jumped each month over $40 so far
I would love to know how that happens. Apparently They are just gonna charge us a lot more. There is no way that my bill should jump $40 in one month and I did no changes.

No change in my electric usage and yet my new bill has gone up $40 for the month. I don’t mind the price increase but this is ridiculous.

[simplesimonsaid]

Originally Posted by ShabbyChick

These Smart Meters emit high doses of radiation. Be sure to learn more before you switch. There are several covers that block the radiation as well as wallpaper.

Fran

hope you never need an xray or mri scan.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Sabella

No change in my electric usage and yet my new bill has gone up $40 for the month. I don’t mind the price increase but this is ridiculous.

How many KWH USED and how may DAYS SERVICE on your last bill and this one?

My meter won't be read until next week so I don't know yet how the heat in June will affect my bill.
(EDIT: I just read the meter and calculated the bill by hand. Mine will be going up at least $21 with no change in usage)