[Sandy and Ed]

Originally Posted by Rainger99

It looks like it is going to be really expensive to use the air conditioner in the summer afternoons!!

Yeah but that would only be during the HOTTEST months of the year!! Snowbirds seem to be getting pretty good rates though. Wife suggests new rates would be a good reason to take her out to lunch and dinner instead of cooking

[Altavia]

SECO smart meters

Also:

Who will install the AMI meter? - SECO Energy


Scott Nelson - April 17, 2023 at 12:16 pm
Is there a schedule to when they will be rolled out in The Villages – Deluna?
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Amanda Richardson - April 18, 2023 at 1:38 pm
Thank you for your inquiry. The systemwide AMI project is scheduled to last three to four years. We don’t have particular neighborhoods scheduled at this time. Watch SECO News for updates and we will send a notification before contractors arrive.

[dtennent]

Looks like solar panels are going to get more interest.

[Altavia]

Originally Posted by Sandy and Ed

Tinker raises a good point. Those of us without “smart” meters with the ability to record/report TOD useage could not be subject to this billing method. Or would we? Maybe by applying a temporary weighted rate equivalent to those with meters until new meters are installed?

Looks like they plan to upgrade to the AMR meters over the next few years. Newer homes may allready have them.

One motivation could be to get ready for future increases in electric vehicles charged at home.

[nn0wheremann]

Originally Posted by Toymeister

SECO services most of TV as the electric utility. They have plans to switch all customers from a .11 first 1,000 kWh, .13 above 1,000 kWh: to a three tier time of day pricing plan.

Super off peak (SOP) .06 per kWh
Off peak (OP) .09
Peak (P). .23

April-Oct
12-6am SOP
6-2pm OP
2-6pm P
6-12pm OP

Nov-Mar
12-6am SOP
6-9am P
9-12pm OP

The SECO rep that I spoke to didn't know when this will be put in place. But the rates have been established so it's clearly not too distant.

Mattress the rec centers will need to set up nap rooms. Anybody want to form The Villages Siesta Club?

[Battlebasset]

I'll get a timer for my golf cart so it only charges on SOP times. Also program my thermostat to take advantage of SOP - Cool your house more SOP/OP times, and let it carry you through so you can set it higher during P times.

Heat really isn't an issue. Even during the coldest time of year, house retains heat pretty well, and solar radiation helps as well. I have NG so I can kick on a stove burner to heat up some water (and my house) from 6 to 9 am vs running the heat pump, if it's really cold (below freezing).

[Battlebasset]

Originally Posted by dtennent

Looks like solar panels are going to get more interest.

Not from me in the current configuration (whole house). Payback time too long, don't like a bunch of holes in the roof, issues with getting insurance, extra weight on roof, something else to maintain/get serviced.

Give me an AC/Heat pump that can be directly augmented by solar energy to reduce its energy consumption during peak usage/daylight hours? Now you have my attention.

[Birdrm]

Maybe they want you to self report the usage?

[Rainger99]

Originally Posted by Toymeister

SECO services most of TV as the electric utility. They have plans to switch all customers from a .11 first 1,000 kWh, .13 above 1,000 kWh: to a three tier time of day pricing plan.

Super off peak (SOP) .06 per kWh
Off peak (OP) .09
Peak (P). .23

April-Oct
12-6am SOP
6-2pm OP
2-6pm P
6-12pm OP

Nov-Mar
12-6am SOP
6-9am P
9-12pm OP

The SECO rep that I spoke to didn't know when this will be put in place. But the rates have been established so it's clearly not too distant.

If I did the math right (I probably didn’t) and you used 1 kWh per hour (unlikely because most people use more electricity during the day than when they are sleeping) it would cost $2.64 a day under the old plan and $2.54 a day under the time of day usage.

I am surprised that they don’t have a weekend rate.

[asianthree]

Our ecobee’s are programmed for sleep 9p to 6a at 73
6a to 9p at 76

My bills for all 3 houses stay about the same ($79) even though this last house is 800sf larger, newer hvac and insulation. Will see if this changes with new structure prices

[MandoMan]

Originally Posted by Toymeister

SECO services most of TV as the electric utility. They have plans to switch all customers from a .11 first 1,000 kWh, .13 above 1,000 kWh: to a three tier time of day pricing plan.

Super off peak (SOP) .06 per kWh
Off peak (OP) .09
Peak (P). .23

April-Oct
12-6am SOP
6-2pm OP
2-6pm P
6-12pm OP

Nov-Mar
12-6am SOP
6-9am P
9-12pm OP

The SECO rep that I spoke to didn't know when this will be put in place. But the rates have been established so it's clearly not too distant.

Interesting news, Toymeister. I’m sure you have been analyzing all this. What have you come up with? Can you deal with turning off the AC from 2-6 in the summer and from 6-9 am in the winter (well, maybe a month with the heater on at that time). Is this likely to increase our bills? Is it likely to encourage us to turn off the AC for a few hours to save money? Would it really make that much of a difference?

[cjrjck]

I wish Duke Energy offered a tiered pricing structure. I live in Sumter county but the electricity is provided by Duke. If I keep my usage below 1000 KWh a month, I end up paying about 16 to 17 cents per KWh. That is with all the fees added in.

[Maker]

This is not about the money we pay for power, although that may be a slight side effect.
The goal is to lower maximum power demanded away from the time of day when huge peak times typically happen. If successful, it reduces the need for power generation capability to be high enough just to cover peak times.
Having power plants sitting idle for most of the day is expensive. This is called "spinning reserve". Elimination of that peaking power plant will save SECO a lot of expenses.
The down side is that SECO may not have spinning reserves to handle a sudden unexpected demand. When you hear of rolling blackouts in California, it's because peak demand cannot be handled by all available generators, plus spinning demand reserves.

Going into the future, as people put in solar to try to save money by reducing consumption... and more houses are built... and a very cloudy hot day occurs, the peak demand would spike. Will SECO have sufficient reserve capacity?

[Toymeister]

Originally Posted by Sandy and Ed

Tinker raises a good point. Those of us without “smart” meters with the ability to record/report TOD useage could not be subject to this billing method. Or would we? Maybe by applying a temporary weighted rate equivalent to those with meters until new meters are installed?

Almost certainly they will swap out your meter.

[djplong]

This is probably the best reason I've seen for installing solar panels on one's roof.