[Toymeister]

Originally Posted by MandoMan

Interesting news, Toymeister. I’m sure you have been analyzing all this. What have you come up with? Can you deal with turning off the AC from 2-6 in the summer and from 6-9 am in the winter (well, maybe a month with the heater on at that time). Is this likely to increase our bills? Is it likely to encourage us to turn off the AC for a few hours to save money? Would it really make that much of a difference?

I have analyzed the new pricing and I am predicting lower bills. My strategy is super cooling the home, changing the pool pump timing, using delay start on the dishwasher and charging the car stating at midnight. Most already mentioned here.

I recently did a hard data reset on my whole house energy monitor so I don't have enough hard data to precisely monetize this. Frankly,I'm not going to change my lifestyle to hyper save on a utility bill.

My effective electric cost per gallon equivalent for my PHEV will be 88.6 cents per gallon. This brings the premium paid for a PHEV into the reasonable payback realm.

[dougawhite]

Doesn't Tesla have a time-shifting power storage system? You charge it during cheap off-peak hrs and then use that power during peak hrs.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Powerwall

[greg.turay]

Originally Posted by djplong

This is probably the best reason I've seen for installing solar panels on one's roof.

I did put solar panels on just two months ago and the savings on electricity is more than recouping on a monthly basis the cost of the installation. And with 25 years of warranty and electricity going up (probably) I am in a great position

[Keefelane66]

I called billing just now and are unaware of time of day billing at this time could not confirm in the future.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by greg.turay

I did put solar panels on just two months ago and the savings on electricity is more than recouping on a monthly basis the cost of the installation. And with 25 years of warranty and electricity going up (probably) I am in a great position

If we were 10-15 years younger and going into a new house would seriously consider. At this stage of life with 13 year old roof, do not see it as a worthwhile investment.

[daniel200]

In their 2022 annual meeting they discussed the roll out of smart meters.

In the meeting they said that they plan to install 7,000 to 9,000 smart meters per month. So to convert everyone they say it will take 3 to 4 years. These meters have the ability to provide realtime usage information in 15 minute increments

[Rainger99]

Originally Posted by djplong

This is probably the best reason I've seen for installing solar panels on one's roof.

Ballpark, what does it cost to install solar panels? I thought the government provided huge tax benefits for installing solar panels.

And how much are you saving a month with solar power? I have always read that you start breaking even after 25 years. Probably won’t be here in 2048.

[kimreniska@mac.com]

Originally Posted by Toymeister

SECO services most of TV as the electric utility. They have plans to switch all customers from a .11 first 1,000 kWh, .13 above 1,000 kWh: to a three tier time of day pricing plan.

Super off peak (SOP) .06 per kWh
Off peak (OP) .09
Peak (P). .23

April-Oct
12-6am SOP
6-2pm OP
2-6pm P
6-12pm OP

Nov-Mar
12-6am SOP
6-9am P
9-12pm OP

The SECO rep that I spoke to didn't know when this will be put in place. But the rates have been established so it's clearly not too distant.

I think you wrote 12pm when it should be 12am (midnight is 12am, noon is 12 pm)

[Spectreron]

Outstanding! Now you can put 300 miles of charge in a Tesla for $4.44 instead of $8.

[Bob45]

Originally Posted by villagetinker

Interesting since I do not believe the current meters or metering system would be able to support REAL TIME metering. To do what is being "reported" requires one way (possibly two way) communication to the utility, or meters with accurate TOD clocks and the ability to store all of this information for a monthly reading.

I signed up for the EV charging plan. Then they installed a new meter that reports usage in real time. The man installing said that all customers will be getting the new meter. He also said we would be able to log on and see our usage in 15 minute increments.
Bob

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Spectreron

Outstanding! Now you can put 300 miles of charge in a Tesla for $4.44 instead of $8.

Given that my Camry gets about 40mpg would save about $ 25 everytime I go 300 miles if I owned a Tesla.

At 10,000 miles per year do not think I could live that long to break even.

[Jdburns11]

Also interesting implications for solar customers (like me!) - obviously could benefit during the peak daylight hours - I wonder how they’ll adjust the exported KWs during all of the time periods involved. Right now it’s about $0.09 per KW . I also agree with others in that there seems to have been no mention of this significant change thus far - and do they have the technology in place to support such as change.

[askcarl]

Bend Over and Smile....

[Southwest737]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

Given that my Camry gets about 40mpg would save about $ 25 everytime I go 300 miles if I owned a Tesla.

At 10,000 miles per year do not think I could live that long to break even.

Tesla owners drive an EV not just because they are 3 times more efficient than antiquated ICE vehicles. We drive an EV because they are more fun. Modern, quiet, clean, smooth. Auto drive feature is sweet as is one pedal driving (it brakes and stops itself). But the best feature is the instant torque when pressing down the right foot. None of that lag associated with combustion, turbochargers, or downshifting. Sheer acceleration. Then the downer is when I have to drive my Chevy Colorado with its 3.6 liter V6. What a dog compared to the Tesla.

[oneclickplus]

Seems like an incentive to put in a battery storage system. Store all the power you can in batteries from midnight to 6:00am. Draw upon that power during the heat of the day.

Originally Posted by Toymeister

SECO services most of TV as the electric utility. They have plans to switch all customers from a .11 first 1,000 kWh, .13 above 1,000 kWh: to a three tier time of day pricing plan.

Super off peak (SOP) .06 per kWh
Off peak (OP) .09
Peak (P). .23

April-Oct
12-6am SOP
6-2pm OP
2-6pm P
6-12pm OP

Nov-Mar
12-6am SOP
6-9am P
9-12pm OP

The SECO rep that I spoke to didn't know when this will be put in place. But the rates have been established so it's clearly not too distant.