[Nucky]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

We don't yet know if this uptick in cases is a true second wave or just a statistical blip on the radar. However, based on the last several days of posts on TOTV, it looks like the second wave of paranoia has already begun.

Direct us in all things Consigliere! I've known you for 5 years and you never Steered Us (MOO) wrong yet! I've been waiting for your post and holding on for which direction to go. Blip? Wave? New Cases? Or My Favorite Paranoia! I have held the course and not changed since day one. Mask On, Distancing, Washing the Hands, No Touch Da Face! Good so far.

When you decide which way I should change to can you PM me thanks a lot!

I just got a PM that says you may have been wrong about one thing. Not my business but it had something to do with a couple of Lobsters!

[tophcfa]

It is as safe as one makes it. Take risks and it is not, take appropriate precautions and it is safe. It all depends on personal responsibility.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

We don't yet know if this uptick in cases is a true second wave or just a statistical blip on the radar. However, based on the last several days of posts on TOTV, it looks like the second wave of paranoia has already begun.

Disagree with this statement. FL never had a first wave like the northeast due to the seasonal activity differences. With the virus spread primarily indoors, in the northeast, Feb/Mar/Apr were relatively cold monthly, and people were aggregating indoors and spread the virus. At that time, in FL, activities were mostly outside with little spread. Now in the north, there is little indoor activities and mostly outdoor activities, where the spread is reduced. Down here, people are now migrating indoors for air conditioning, as its very hot outside, which promotes spread of the virus. Hat tip Coachk for picking up on that subtle point by Desantis this afternoon.

So, that is why the South has not been as infected as the North over the same time period, but the behaviors are reversing and the South is spreading due to more indoor activities to escape the heat. So this surge is effectively the south's first wave, which makes the south luckier in that the more deadly virus which kills its host and has a shorter life span, has a faster diminishing R0, and not as prevalent and the less deadly or milder is the current most persistent virus.

However, Friday, Fauci also said that this type of virus with such large variation of outcomes, has never been seen before in infectious disease studies. So don't assume that there are any guarantees of simple or safe outcomes just because the average age of infections is trending towards the average age of the population, the only assumption is better treatments for most serious shorter hospital stays. Apparent mild cases are still ending up dead at home.

And these statements are not paranoia, just data points and analysis from individual outcomes, and medical observations and analysis, as reported in a hospital setting by Coachk, who reviews individual deaths many times a week for statutory reporting. And CoachK listens in every morning on senior staff conference calls at the medical center, discussing all aspects of the hospital current daily status and updates.

sportsguy