[RickeyD]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

This all seems very..........Freudian.

More like very......Puritan.

[kstew43]

That kind of thinking does not belong in todays society.

[Retiring]

Is there anything special about this particular registered sex offender? There are tons of registered sex offenders living in the villages. The majority listed as “Offense Against Child.” We all need to keep our head on a swivel. See something, say something.

http://www.familywatchdog.us/showmap.asp

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by RickeyD

More like very......Puritan.

Bull****! Most of us have enjoyed very healthy sexual activity for many years and are not afraid to discuss sex and healthy sexual choices.

A child molester is taking advantage of another human being for their own gratification.

At our nice lower middle class elementary school, the principal impregnated a 12 year old. That was a LONG time ago. It was wrong then and it is wrong now. Maybe she was a consenting 12 year old, starved for affection and enjoying attention from a person who was respected.

I don't understand your use of the word puritan. People railing against those that society has found guilty of breaking their rules aren't puritanical. My kids grew tired of me bringing up sex, reproduction, relationships, responsibility, getting pregnant, carrying condoms, making the right choices, masturbation, disease, public decency, how to act and still be a healthy sexual person.

I know that stadiums full of cheering fans filling the seats because every one of them was produced through sexual activity.

[golfing eagles]

The last thing I want to do is make any statement in defense of sex offenders, but I think we have to be careful here. I don't think the law makes enough of a distinction between various categories of offenders. There is a huge difference between an 18 year old man dating a 15 year old for a year and then having consensual sexual relations, and a 60 year old man luring a 6 year old girl into his van with a puppy. But both could be branded a sex offender for life.
For example, my son had a friend when he lived in Colorado who had a 18 year old son that was just a bit "slow". As a result, he was frequently harassed by some "bullies" in his senior class. One afternoon he was cutting across the athletic fields of the high school that was a complex shared by a middle school and elementary school. He was attacked by 6 or 7 "bullies" who stripped him of all his clothing and took his cell phone, leaving him in the middle of the field naked. There wasn't even a fig tree to grab a leaf from, so he ran towards the school looking for help. He was seen by a group of 4th grade girls who started screaming, which gained the attention of school administration and the police were called. He was arrested, convicted of a sexual offense, and sentenced to 6 months in jail and 5 years probation, as well as being listed for life as a "sex offender". This highlights one of the problems with "zero tolerance" policies. I just don't see this as a sex offense, and since "intent" seems to be a new yardstick applied to the law, I don't see intent either. If anything the true offenders were the group of boys that stripped him. BTW, he named them, but no one was interested. The police "had their man", case closed. The DA had his conviction. Case closed.

Now the true sex offenders are pedophiles who prey on pre-teen children and those who commit non-consensual assault. I don't think two teenagers with poor judgement , and certainly not the boy described above should be branded for life

That being said, probably 90+% of those labeled as sex offenders truly deserve it, so be careful.

[kstew43]

Originally Posted by Retiring

Is there anything special about this particular registered sex offender? There are tons of registered sex offenders living in the villages. The majority listed as “Offense Against Child.” We all need to keep our head on a swivel. See something, say something.

http://www.familywatchdog.us/showmap.asp

since I was the OP, i will let you know why I chose to put this out.

I was actually interested in a home that backed to Krantz, but decided, thank goodness, that the taxes were too high and I would wait for something in sumter.

when I read this article on Facebook, I was devastated because of my childhood history and the thought that I could have lived next door to something that would bring back memories of what I went thru every day, for the rest of my life.


this just adds one more thing to my list to check before buying a home.

I realize there are predators , 26 in that one Villages zip code.....but they didn't hit as close to home as this one did.

[RickeyD]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Bull****! Most of us have enjoyed very healthy sexual activity for many years and are not afraid to discuss sex and healthy sexual choices.



A child molester is taking advantage of another human being for their own gratification.



At our nice lower middle class elementary school, the principal impregnated a 12 year old. That was a LONG time ago. It was wrong then and it is wrong now. Maybe she was a consenting 12 year old, starved for affection and enjoying attention from a person who was respected.



What are you trying to say, Rickey D? That all sexual urges have the right to be gratified? My kids grew tired of me bringing up sex, reproduction, relationships, responsibility, getting pregnant, carrying condoms, making the right choices, masturbation, disease, public decency, how to act and still be a healthy sexual person.



I know that stadiums full of cheering fans filling the seats because every one of them was produced through sexual activity.

Please don't project onto me. My point is this. The state can sanction a marriage between a minor and an adult and its legal. Unmarried consensual sex between these two people is illegal. So, what are we talking about here. Morality or illegality ?

[graciegirl]

[QUOTE=RickeyD;1300221]Please don't project onto me.
I was responding to the use of your word...puritan.

[RickeyD]

Puritan not applied to you but to the law and moray's.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by kstew43

since I was the OP, i will let you know why I chose to put this out.

I was actually interested in a home that backed to Krantz, but decided, thank goodness, that the taxes were too high and I would wait for something in sumter.

when I read this article on Facebook, I was devastated because of my childhood history and the thought that I could have lived next door to something that would bring back memories of what I went thru every day, for the rest of my life.


this just adds one more thing to my list to check before buying a home.

I realize there are predators , 26 in that one Villages zip code.....but they didn't hit as close to home as this one did.

You should be looking VERY carefully at the sexual predator statistics before thinking about where you will live. Don't wait for Facebook to tell you what's what. You have a very real concern. I would even go to the police department if I were you and looking for a move. I'm astounded you would leave this to chance, given your circumstances. I'm sorry for what has happened to you and wish you the best, safest move possible.

[Retiring]

Originally Posted by kstew43

since I was the OP, i will let you know why I chose to put this out.

I was actually interested in a home that backed to Krantz, but decided, thank goodness, that the taxes were too high and I would wait for something in sumter.

when I read this article on Facebook, I was devastated because of my childhood history and the thought that I could have lived next door to something that would bring back memories of what I went thru every day, for the rest of my life.


this just adds one more thing to my list to check before buying a home.

I realize there are predators , 26 in that one Villages zip code.....but they didn't hit as close to home as this one did.

I am so sorry you had to deal with such evil as a child. Something no one should ever experience. I will pray that you find some level of peace over time.

I consider myself a Christian, which means I’m supposed to forgive. But when it comes to those that hurt children, I can’t. Yes TV has many RSOs. Just on one website it shows << 59 Mapped Offenders, 11 Un-Mapped Offenders>> and that’s only the people that actually have “The Villages” in their address. If you extend out to 32159-32163 you see far more listed, numbers rise into the hundreds.

You are smart for checking the database pre-purchase. I do the same. However, I don’t know where I would draw the line. Next door, no way. One block away, probably not. Two blocks away, I don’t know.

As a civilized society we don’t seek retribution but me MUST be vigilant.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

The last thing I want to do is make any statement in defense of sex offenders, but I think we have to be careful here. I don't think the law makes enough of a distinction between various categories of offenders. There is a huge difference between an 18 year old man dating a 15 year old for a year and then having consensual sexual relations, and a 60 year old man luring a 6 year old girl into his van with a puppy. But both could be branded a sex offender for life.
For example, my son had a friend when he lived in Colorado who had a 18 year old son that was just a bit "slow". As a result, he was frequently harassed by some "bullies" in his senior class. One afternoon he was cutting across the athletic fields of the high school that was a complex shared by a middle school and elementary school. He was attacked by 6 or 7 "bullies" who stripped him of all his clothing and took his cell phone, leaving him in the middle of the field naked. There wasn't even a fig tree to grab a leaf from, so he ran towards the school looking for help. He was seen by a group of 4th grade girls who started screaming, which gained the attention of school administration and the police were called. He was arrested, convicted of a sexual offense, and sentenced to 6 months in jail and 5 years probation, as well as being listed for life as a "sex offender". This highlights one of the problems with "zero tolerance" policies. I just don't see this as a sex offense, and since "intent" seems to be a new yardstick applied to the law, I don't see intent either. If anything the true offenders were the group of boys that stripped him. BTW, he named them, but no one was interested. The police "had their man", case closed. The DA had his conviction. Case closed.

Now the true sex offenders are pedophiles who prey on pre-teen children and those who commit non-consensual assault. I don't think two teenagers with poor judgement , and certainly not the boy described above should be branded for life

That being said, probably 90+% of those labeled as sex offenders truly deserve it, so be careful.

I agree with you as usual. People with cognitive handicaps are often the target of people with perversion. Anyone using another body without their consent is a loser. And that includes young and naïve teens.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by RickeyD

Puritan not applied to you but to the law and moray's.

I apologize for thinking so. This whole thing is upsetting because the problem itself, can't be solved. Society has to live with people who would harm children because society hasn't been able to find a program to make them "normal". I am not talking about people marrying young. Many of the "greatest generation, my parents generation, married younger than 18 and things worked out very well. People could generate a living without college then. It was accepted.

I think that people will be aware that the man lives there and keep in mind his past. Dr. Phil says that "the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior".

Sorry I jumped on you Ricky.

[RickeyD]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I apologize for thinking so. This whole thing is upsetting because the problem itself, can't be solved. Society has to live with people who would harm children because society hasn't been able to find a program to make them "normal". I am not talking about people marrying young. Many of the "greatest generation, my parents generation, married younger than 18 and things worked out very well. People could generate a living without college then. It was accepted.



I think that people will be aware that the man lives there and keep in mind his past. Dr. Phil says that "the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior".



Sorry I jumped on you Ricky.

My wife jumps on me all the time, I'm use to it.

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by Villager Joyce

We are not discussing other cultures. We are discussing people who live in the United States. Your forgiveness for the sting operation is what really puzzles me. He wanted to have sexual relations with a minor. Period. If he wasn't trying to have sex with a minor, he could not have gotten sucked into a sting operation.
Your reference to looking older is just as puzzling. Jon benet Ramsey looked older. Was she fair game?
Were you a criminal defense attirney?

Jon Benet Ramsey was a 7 yo that looked maybe 7 and 1/2. I would say she was not fair game. I don't mean to sound like I am forgiving this guy. I'm just saying I don't know the specifics of the case.