[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by outlaw

Pretty well. Zero recidivism rate as far as I know.

Unless you count stabbings in prison which may involve guards or even others. Often the real ugly prisoners in terms of their crimes are killed by other inmates though and it is not the death penalty people murdering again.

And then there are the innocent in prison. Does happen once in a while.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by outlaw

Actually, we are moving Society tolerated pedophilia, or at least very young teen sexual exploitation by adults, is not far away.

I disagree with your negative outlook.
"Society tolerated pedophilia" will never happen. Sexual exploitation of young teens by adults will never be tolerated.

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by Barefoot

I disagree with your negative outlook.
"Society tolerated pedophilia" will never happen. Sexual exploitation of young teens by adults will never be tolerated.

Look up NAMBLA and see what can openly exist in this country today. Go watch New York City's gay pride parade and see what behavior the public will tolerate.

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Unless you count stabbings in prison which may involve guards or even others. Often the real ugly prisoners in terms of their crimes are killed by other inmates though and it is not the death penalty people murdering again.

And then there are the innocent in prison. Does happen once in a while.

I think you missed my point.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by outlaw

Look up NAMBLA and see what can openly exist in this country today. Go watch New York City's gay pride parade and see what behavior the public will tolerate.

Sorry, I don't accept your theories.
Suggesting that we look up NAMBLA is like saying the KKK is openly tolerated.
There will always be scum in this world, but I do not personally believe that society will ever tolerate pedophilia.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by Barefoot

Sorry, I don't accept your theories.
Suggesting that we look up NAMBLA is like saying the KKK is openly tolerated.
There will always be scum in this world, but I do not personally believe that society will ever tolerate pedophilia.

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[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by outlaw

Look up NAMBLA and see what can openly exist in this country today. Go watch New York City's gay pride parade and see what behavior the public will tolerate.

There is a huge difference between an organization like NAMBLA...and gays having a parade.

[RickeyD]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

There is a huge difference between an organization like NAMBLA...and gays having a parade.

You sure about that ??

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by RickeyD

You sure about that ??

I'm very sure.

One is a sick organization, that believes the sexual exploitation of young/underage boys is just fine and natural.

The other, is the sexual orientation...of consenting adults.

The problem is that all too many have been brainwashed into thinking that homosexuality (especially with males)...is the same as pedophilia.

It's not.

Facts About Homosexuality and Child Molestation

Some conservative groups have argued that scientific research strongly supports their claims that homosexuality and pedophilia are linked. The Family Research Council has produced what is perhaps the most extensive attempt to document this claim. It is an article by Timothy J. Dailey titled Homosexuality and Child Abuse.

With 76 footnotes, many of them referring to papers in scientific journals, it appears at first glance to be a thorough and scholarly discussion of the issue. On further examination, however, its central argument – that "the evidence indicates that homosexual men molest boys at rates grossly disproportionate to the rates at which heterosexual men molest girls" – doesn't hold up.

Reflecting the results of these and other studies, as well as clinical experience, the mainstream view among researchers and professionals who work in the area of child sexual abuse is that homosexual and bisexual men do not pose any special threat to children. For example, in one review of the scientific literature, noted authority Dr. A. Nicholas Groth wrote:

Are homosexual adults in general sexually attracted to children and are preadolescent children at greater risk of molestation from homosexual adults than from heterosexual adults? There is no reason to believe so.

The research to date all points to there being no significant relationship between a homosexual lifestyle and child molestation. There appears to be practically no reportage of sexual molestation of girls by lesbian adults, and the adult male who sexually molests young boys is not likely to be homosexual (Groth & Gary, 1982, p. 147).

If you read the entire article, it actually points out that pedophiles are not really 'heterosexuals' nor 'homosexuals'...as their sexual attraction is based on age.

The distinction between a victim's gender and a perpetrator's sexual orientation is important because many child molesters don't really have an adult sexual orientation. They have never developed the capacity for mature sexual relationships with other adults, either men or women. Instead, their sexual attractions focus on children – boys, girls, or children of both sexes.

I do get it though, that a lot of us (including myself) feel 'uncomfortable' or 'grossed out'...by public displays of homosexuality.

The same applies for me...to those who are covered with visible tattoos.

What I try to keep in mind however, is that the COTUS does not confer a 'right'...that we never be uncomfortable or repulsed.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

I'm very sure.

One is a sick organization, that believes the sexual exploitation of young/underage boys is just fine and natural.

The other, is the sexual orientation...of consenting adults.

The problem is that all too many have been brainwashed into thinking that homosexuality (especially with males)...is the same as pedophilia.

It's not.

Facts About Homosexuality and Child Molestation



If you read the entire article, it actually points out that pedophiles are not really 'heterosexuals' nor 'homosexuals'...as their sexual attraction is based on age.




I do get it though, that a lot of us (including myself) feel 'uncomfortable' or 'grossed out'...by public displays of homosexuality.

The same applies for me...to those who are covered with visible tattoos.

What I try to keep in mind however, is that the COTUS does not confer a 'right'...that we never be uncomfortable or repulsed.

Excellent post.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Excellent post.

I agree. ColdNoMore. Keep on posting links to credible informational resources. You may be able to change people's hearts and minds somewhat.

As long as they are consenting human adults what they do in their romantic lives should only be their own business. And you always do not chose whom you love. Often our personal history and biology and other factors come into play.

Many of the gays I met in the Twin Cities and the SF Bay area had long term and very loving personal relationships. Some did not. But the same can be said of straights that some are quite promiscuous. And some of the swinging straights do things just as strange as their gay counterparts. Think about Fifty Shades of Gray and its popularity.

[RickeyD]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

I'm very sure.

One is a sick organization, that believes the sexual exploitation of young/underage boys is just fine and natural.

The other, is the sexual orientation...of consenting adults.

The problem is that all too many have been brainwashed into thinking that homosexuality (especially with males)...is the same as pedophilia.

It's not.

Facts About Homosexuality and Child Molestation



If you read the entire article, it actually points out that pedophiles are not really 'heterosexuals' nor 'homosexuals'...as their sexual attraction is based on age.




I do get it though, that a lot of us (including myself) feel 'uncomfortable' or 'grossed out'...by public displays of homosexuality.

The same applies for me...to those who are covered with visible tattoos.

What I try to keep in mind however, is that the COTUS does not confer a 'right'...that we never be uncomfortable or repulsed.

I agree with you.

[Wandatime]

I'm pretty sure a pedophile isn't just interested in the little kids one house over. He is also interested in the ones at the grocery store, pharmacy, waiting for a school bus, etc. He may not live "right next door," but he is still a danger to every little one in the entire community. I am glad we are able to pinpoint where known pedophiles live, but it might be a better course of action to keep an eagle eye on the grandchildren.

[manaboutown]

A 39 year old man,a convicted sex offender and armed robber, Jonathan David Pence, has moved in with a couple having the same last name (his parents?) in Winifred according to the online paper whose name cannot be used here.

[outlaw]

Homosexual men have a much higher rate of sexual encounters with underage boys than heterosexual men. The Catholic church is a prime example.