[Rollie]

I almost always take a cart into the store.

I took my mother shopping the other day. She has a handicap sticker but can walk, with a little help. When we arrived at the store she asked my to get her a cart so she could walk with it. I also think that carts are left behind by the somewhat handicapped.

Rollie

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Fredster

That is great, but also consider the people that are hired to go out and round up carts, would lose their jobs.
A woman friend of mine worked with those kids to get them employed, and it meant a lot to them to have the work.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Just wait and see what happens to THAT job if minimum wage goes to $15/hour

The job holder might be able to buy some groceries.....

[Sophie11]

Originally Posted by Rollie

I almost always take a cart into the store.

I took my mother shopping the other day. She has a handicap sticker but can walk, with a little help. When we arrived at the store she asked my to get her a cart so she could walk with it. I also think that carts are left behind by the somewhat handicapped.

Rollie

You can always tell who really needs the spot as they will leave the cart for the next handicap person! If they feel as if they can walk to put the cart away I think they do not need to park in this spot. The spots are wide for this reason.

[Fredster]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Just wait and see what happens to THAT job if minimum wage goes to $15/hour

These are special needs kids, and really having work
which matches and expands their capabilities is a higher priority than the money!
Up north many supermarkets hire and employ special needs people who would
have a tough time handling other types of work!
Those are the folks I'm afraid would lose employment if all stores did carts like Aldi's!

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by virgind

Please be considerate of handicap people. This was at winn dixie Sumter Landing. You took the cart out there take it back.

Good luck with that! Easier to cure cancer

[Fredster]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

The job holder might be able to buy some groceries.....

Aldi's is a good example of what happens when hourly pay rises, employees multitask,
no bags, no bagging, no cart people.
Bottom line fewer jobs!

[Gpsma]

I cant wait until im fully retired so i can worry about shopping carts

Aldi is nothing more than a high class welfare store. Off brands sprinkled in with quality stuff to attract a better class of people.

Id rather go to walmart

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by maureenod

Everyone needs to make a decent wage, even $15 hour is hard to live on. Welfare has to come into play at present minimum wage. Business have to factor it in, also they have to get rid of deadbeats. Shape up or ship out.

Yes, it is. But minimum wage jobs are not intended to be enough for a sole breadwinner to support a family of four. They are entry level jobs for kids to get some $$ and workplace experience.

So, If we raise the pay of the high school drop out burger flipper from $ 7 to $15/hr., then the high school graduate assistant manager making $11 wants $20. The manager with an associates degree getting $17 wants $30. The regional manager with a bachelor's degree getting $25 want $40. Now, when the business "factors it in", the Big Mac meal goes from $7 to $15, and the burger flipper still works the same 1 hour to buy his dinner. Meanwhile, the seniors on fixed incomes fall further behind. They now are forced to re-enter the job market, and the manager would much rather hire a mature person with 40 years experience who is reliable than a kid who calls in sick when the surf is up and spends his work time on his cell phone. Bye-bye entry level job.

At the same time, the widget factory worker across town who screws tab A into slot B gets $15 and so on up his food chain, so that the price of American widgets goes from $10 to $14, while Chinese widgets stay $7. Pretty soon, the widget factory is priced out of the market and closes, leaving all those workers who thought they were getting a big raise unemployed. But not to worry, when they give up looking for work, they no longer count as unemployed, so that rate stays around 5%. Nothing to see here, everything is just fine.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Yes, it is. But minimum wage jobs are not intended to be enough for a sole breadwinner to support a family of four. They are entry level jobs for kids to get some $$ and workplace experience.

That is a totally false premise, based on an overly simplistic philosophy...that doesn't jive with reality.

There aren't enough jobs (mostly thanks to big corp's off-shoring) to allow everyone to 'move up.'

And how exactly does a 'kid' at convenience stores, housekeeping at hotels, fast-food joints, etc., etc....work during the day when they are in school?

In other words, there will ALWAYS be a need for adults to fill those positions.

So, If we raise the pay of the high school drop out burger flipper from $ 7 to $15/hr., then the high school graduate assistant manager making $11 wants $20. The manager with an associates degree getting $17 wants $30. The regional manager with a bachelor's degree getting $25 want $40. Now, when the business "factors it in", the Big Mac meal goes from $7 to $15, and the burger flipper still works the same 1 hour to buy his dinner. Meanwhile, the seniors on fixed incomes fall further behind. They now are forced to re-enter the job market, and the manager would much rather hire a mature person with 40 years experience who is reliable than a kid who calls insick when the surf is up and spends his work time on his cell phone. Bye-bye entry level job.

At the same time, the widget factory worker across town who screws tab A into slot B gets $15 and so on up his food chain, so that the price of American widgets goes from $10 to $14, while Chinese widgets stay $7. Pretty soon, the widget factory is priced out of the market and closes, leaving all those workers who thought they were getting a big raise unemployed. But not to worry, when they give up looking for work, they no longer count as unemployed, so that rate stays around 5%. Nothing to see here, everything is just fine.

Easy enough to solve.

Gather enough like-minded people who have invested in companies (either directly or with mutual funds/401K's/Roth's/Etc.) and tell those companies that you are willing to accept a lower return, or even take a loss...on your stocks with them.

I'm sure with that pressure off, they would be more than willing to bring those positions back to this country and thereby allow the current 'working poor'....to get better paying jobs.

And yes, I'm being totally facetious because the big cog in this wheel is the fact that upper management pay is often tied to stock performance (mine was), so unless that changes too, the incentive to reduce costs and increase profits.... will ALWAYS be there.

Easiest way to reduce costs? Send the work to a country who is looking to increase their standard of living, by having citizens willing to work for substantially less than what it takes to even survive in the USA.

The big irony of course, is that we scream at countries who are basically trying to live..."The American Dream."

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

That is a totally false premise, based on an overly simplistic philosophy...that doesn't jive with reality.

There aren't enough jobs (mostly thanks to big corp's off-shoring) to allow everyone to 'move up.'

And how exactly does a 'kid' at convenience stores, housekeeping at hotels, fast-food joints, etc., etc....work during the day when they are in school?

In other words, there will ALWAYS be a need for adults to fill those positions.






Easy enough to solve.

Gather enough like-minded people who have invested in companies (either directly or with mutual funds/401K's/Roth's/Etc.) and tell those companies that you are willing to accept a lower return, or even take a loss...on your stocks with them.

I'm sure with that pressure off, they would be more than willing to bring those positions back to this country and thereby allow the current 'working poor'....to get better paying jobs.

And yes, I'm being totally facetious because the big cog in this wheel is the fact that upper management pay is often tied to stock performance (mine was), so unless that changes too, the incentive to reduce costs and increase profits.... will ALWAYS be there.

Easiest way to reduce costs? Send the work to a country who is looking to increase their standard of living, by having citizens willing to work for substantially less than what it takes to even survive in the USA.

The big irony of course, is that we scream at countries who are basically trying to live..."The American Dream."

Which is exactly what is happening. But since there is a finite limit to the total "standard of living" at any one time, the better theirs becomes, the worse ours is. Yet we continue to give the store away.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

That is a totally false premise, based on an overly simplistic philosophy...that doesn't jive with reality.

There aren't enough jobs (mostly thanks to big corp's off-shoring) to allow everyone to 'move up.'

And how exactly does a 'kid' at convenience stores, housekeeping at hotels, fast-food joints, etc., etc....work during the day when they are in school?

In other words, there will ALWAYS be a need for adults to fill those positions.

Who's being simplistic????

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Yes, it is. But minimum wage jobs are not intended to be enough for a sole breadwinner to support a family of four. They are entry level jobs for kids to get some $$ and workplace experience.

So, If we raise the pay of the high school drop out burger flipper from $ 7 to $15/hr., then the high school graduate assistant manager making $11 wants $20. The manager with an associates degree getting $17 wants $30. The regional manager with a bachelor's degree getting $25 want $40. Now, when the business "factors it in", the Big Mac meal goes from $7 to $15, and the burger flipper still works the same 1 hour to buy his dinner. Meanwhile, the seniors on fixed incomes fall further behind. They now are forced to re-enter the job market, and the manager would much rather hire a mature person with 40 years experience who is reliable than a kid who calls in sick when the surf is up and spends his work time on his cell phone. Bye-bye entry level job.

At the same time, the widget factory worker across town who screws tab A into slot B gets $15 and so on up his food chain, so that the price of American widgets goes from $10 to $14, while Chinese widgets stay $7. Pretty soon, the widget factory is priced out of the market and closes, leaving all those workers who thought they were getting a big raise unemployed. But not to worry, when they give up looking for work, they no longer count as unemployed, so that rate stays around 5%. Nothing to see here, everything is just fine.

Where do doctors and other medical providers figure in your analysis?

[Fredster]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Where do doctors and other medical providers figure in your analysis?

Obviously you need more than a minimum wage to do well in life.
So one might need to get a good education and gain some highly marketable skills.
Working at a low wage entry level job while going to high school convinced me to continue my education,
and work towards a profession.
But years ago we didn't have a veritable flood of uneducated, unskilled people illegally entering the country!
Times have changed haven't they?

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Where do doctors and other medical providers figure in your analysis?

That's a diverse group. Neurosurgeons or orderlies????

[virgind]

After reading all these replies I'm sorry for having any concern for handicap people. Still it can be hard for them to get out of their car with a car setting there. Beside that the cart has no handicap sticker on it's rear view mirror so they are parked illegally. Lets see what you folks do with that.