Are they renting it out for 40 a night to up to 6 twenty five year olds? Because that’s what I’m talking about.

That sounds like what we had. And each of them had their own car or truck, two of which were parked on our front lawn crushing sprinkler heads. They also enjoyed sitting outside in the birdcage drinking, playing loud music, and making lots of annoying noise until the wee hours of the morning and drove around our normally quiet residential neighborhood at about 50 MPH. If it only lasted for a couple days it wouldn’t be that big of a deal, but it was a revolving door of different idiots with an occasional couple days off before the next batch of morons showed up. Thank god the woman running that horrible operation moved out.

So we have rented over 30 times in TV because I am still working but can’t afford to have 2 homes. We have always been invited back to the homes we’ve rented because of how we take care of them and respect the fact that we’re a guest in someone else’s home. We always pay for the resident passes each visit so that helps to cover the amenities we may or may not use. More and more on here I’m seeing posts that are very unwelcoming to visitors and even renters or owners who don’t live there full-time. This is where I would love to live but just not possible at this time. We are very friendly people who love interacting with others but sometimes it’s obvious to us that the neighbors near where we rent aren’t interested in even conversing. Sort of disappointing. We’re not there to ruin your values or anything else. We’re just people who are very happy when we visit TV. It is a special place. Hoping the inhospitable attitudes don’t become the norm. We’ll be there May 27-June 7 so we hope it’s not too much for the OP and some of the others who are negative toward us as visitors

I think it would be easier if Clearwater Beach would just start allowing short term rentals.

The policy of the community on rentals should be one of your considerations when you buy.

It’s too bad you are the anomaly. The main issue is of course STRs (short term rentals) that rent for under 31 days. I understand you do (ie. 11 days). It isn’t about hostility, it’s about following community standards for those of us who have made the jump to maintaining a full time household down here. Perhaps when you sink money into your permanent retirement address, pay almost 10k in property taxes, and cover all other bills, you may think differently about the revolving door next to your new home? There is the Brownwood hotel etc. Of course, STRs will cut into the bottom line of the new Villages hotel in Middleton. This could forward some decision enforcement also? Every bit will help.

You are more than welcome in TV.
A majority of the full-timers love snows and monthly renters and short-term renters.
There is always a handful of whiners on this site.

There are a few "bad" renters, but that does not label all renters.

Keep coming, Keep enjoying, the whiners are not normal.......jus one normal. :1rotfl::1rotfl:

Who is the family?

I second that.😎

You are incorrect. The 6% (not 7%) is collected by the state ONLY if the landlord tells the government that he's a landlord, and renting his property. If he doesn't tell them, then he gets away with not paying the tax. There is also a 1% county tourism tax for both Sumter and Lake Counties. Marion county rentals incur a 4% county tourism tax, making the total a 10% tax paid by the landlord to the state/county.

It also applies only to short-term rentals of less than 6 months. There are exceptions but none of them apply in the Villages (military personnel on active duty, for instance).

So basically as long as it doesn't personally affect you it's fine.

Seems like a simply solution (albeit slow and long term)... report the address of the STR homes causing issues to the tax commissioner's office. If the fact that they are not paying the appropriate taxes comes to light, it might help to curb the offering of that property as an STR.

Wildwood Commissioner Joe Elliott suggested Tuesday night that Sumter County bring back a 2-percent tourism tax that was abolished in 2020.

For those renters who see some of the comments as an attack on them personally, it’s been specifically mentioned the problems stems from unruly, loud, obnoxious short terms renters some of who are not 55 and who are more interested in using The Villages as base for their other excursions or to use the copious amount of amenities and recreation at extremely low prices ($50).

In the past several years as the Florida real estate market heated up but home prices were still comparatively low, investors and others bought homes as a source of revenue and income. Some took money from their retirement accounts to buy homes in Florida seeing it as a better investment and return. While perhaps a shrewd business move, it has detracted from the ambience and lifestyle many moved to TV to enjoy.

Instead of trying to get counties or the developers to act on deed restrictions I think it would be easier and more clever to heavily tax rental owners with all kinds of fees and surcharges that would make it prohibitively expensive to rent out homes short term.

How do you know……..?

He seconded a post that stated a renter, who has rented 30 times, is more than welcome to continue coming to TV and the same renter was feeling unwelcomed by the posts of a FEW posters.

It had nothing to do with "personally affect you".

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Air b&b rentals
 

No short term rentals I agree. If you do have a problem with your neighbors having short term rentals, check with the tax office, see if they claim homeowners reductions.

If you are talking homestead exemption.............you can rent and claim the exemption with certain limitations.

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I bet you don’t stay up all night drinking and listening to loud music and invite 6 of your best friends to share the accommodations with you - and that is why you are welcome. In general it is so nice to meet people who come from all over, with interesting stories to share. But, about those misfits; I can guarantee that the hostility towards those who will take advantage and abuse the welcoming nature of the Villages will increase as more and more of them come.

Our house in the keys was restricted to one-month rental’s only. No matter how small the amount of VRBO’s or air B&Bs are here, if it’s next to your house, it sucks.

Do you really want the government, The Villages is in 3 counties, or the CDD governments, telling you what you can or cannot do in your home? I don’t! Short term rentals, days not weeks or months, is something that should be discussed with your CDD board.

The short term rentals are essentially a hotel (a business). So, it shouldn't be permitted in the residental-zoned neighborhoods.

I’m assuming “the family” refers to the developers of The Villages. Because TV was started by and continues to be operated by the second (or could be the third) generation.

We have short term renters next to us and we don’t even know they are there. They don’t bother us.

Curious how 1 rental on the street is very disruptive to the street. What is happening that is causing so many problems?

It’s a Villa neighborhood. The houses are very close there are easement issues and no parking. I am done arguing about it. Obviously it is a non issue for anyone who has not yet been affected.

Lawsuit

They are just trying to a) play ignorant about the issue, or b) justifying it.

100% percent correct. In an organized, "selfishless" society, one person's rights end where another person's rights begin.

I don't think this is as big of an issue as you have made it out to be.

1,200 homes out of 80,000 is an insignificant number.

I am just curious, do you think it is in the DNA of someone who would rent for 30 days and not 31 that makes them so noisy and inconsiderate? Or do you think someone who normally rents for 31 days or more just behaves differently when they rent in February for only 28 days?

Along the same lines of any progress in this area, does anyone know if there has been any progress in outlawing dogs in the squares so that my experience for entertainment and the farmers market would be better? Or not allowing dogs to live in the villages? I was promised a heavenly lifestyle in the villages, and it is greatly reduced by having dogs at the table next to me at the restaurants, or barking at the other dogs at the square, or doing their business on the sidewalk and being left there by the owner (brownwood about 3 weeks ago) or the permanent resident next to me who allows their dog out without a leash to do his business in the circle landscaping in front of our house or sometimes in my yard. My experience is greatly reduced by knowing that every place I walk in the grass or stand off the sidewalk at the square to let people pass by me that I am standing in a dog latrine. I hate knowing that everytime I go to the grocery store and put food in my cart that there is a good chance that someone has had their dog in it just before me. Or has there been any progress on outlawing the year round residents who go to the adult pools and talk so loudly with others non-stop for hours while I am just trying to relax at the pool and I really don't care about all the stuff they are telling someone else loudly? Or has there been any progress on outlawing year-round residents from having parties at their house (but only those I am not invited to) where they are loudly enjoying themselves outside and cars are parked in front of my house . On a similar note, does someone know if it is cheaper or easier to replace a sprinkler head broken by a year round resident who parked on my lawn at the party of another year round resident than those that are broken by a short term renter? Thanks for any info you have on the progress made in the areas that lower my home experience in the villages (and reduce demand by others who don't want to experience them) because of year round residents.

Looks you have a lot of issues / questions unrelated to rentals and should start many, many, many new threads.

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It was sure NOT insignificant when several days in a row I could not get even a chair in my neighborhood pool because of the number of people under 40 crowding everyone out!

Yes, this issue of renters is a thorn in the side - don’t expect (not you personally) to be able to sweep it under the rug (with fly by your pants numbers).

Neighborhood pool meaning adult pool where under 30 is not allowed?

You can ID someone as being between 30 and 40? Did you call anyone to suggest there were people using the pool who did not have Villages IDs or Guest Passes?

Yeah, More or less I can. I taught grad school for a time. But does it matter really if they were 40 or 41? Or even 42? Huh? The thing is you’re trying to turn the topic away from the fact that the pools are not made to handle such an influx of numbers and they never had to in the past. So what’s changed? I regularly talk to people in the pool - there were several times - when I could get in, I was the ONLY resident.

So these 1200 houses must be just in your area they prevent you from getting a chair at your pool. I am betting they were kids or grandkids visiting for spring break.

But the only people I could see renting for a few days or up to a week or two are people visiting residents here in the villages. Most tourist destinations are an hour or two away. Who would come here to just be around old people? My 32-year-old son has come to visit and stayed for a week or two at times. My 42-year-old son, wife, and 2 kids have not. But we have a three bed room house so they could if they wanted to visit. it is just easier for us to go there.

It’s not a big issue, because revolving hotel room renters in your neighborhood have parked next to you YET. I’m sure it’s what you paid for…..

NOT

What is the worst example of bad behavior by the STR crowd?

We have several STRs in my area and I have never had a problem. Most of them are decent, quiet people who can't afford to stay in a hotel at Disney World. They usually leave early in the morning and come home in the evening.

If it were all spring breakers going to Daytona Beach or college kids having a bachelor's party, it would be a different crowd and I can imagine there would be problems.