Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2208397)

Looks you have a lot of issues / questions unrelated to rentals and should start many, many, many new threads.

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Originally Posted by Cybersprings (Post 2208454)

I always find myself upvoting your posts, so I think we are generally on the same page, and I am guessing that from the big applause that you were able to see through my specific issues not having anything to do with rentals, and my interjected sarcasm questions that my point is (which I think I see you making also) that not all problems are cause by renters/snow birds and that we don't need to outlaw everything that you (proverbial you, not you you) don't happen to do or like.

Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2207662)

We’ll just surround your house with rentals and you can tell us if life improved or if your property value increased….lol

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2208121)

If you are talking homestead exemption.............you can rent and claim the exemption with certain limitations.

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Originally Posted by Pairadocs (Post 2208477)

I certainly agree, my concern and amazement is only how many people post on here without having any understanding of how a development like this differs from a "town, city" (municipality), how many have no idea how our retail and recreational "areas" differ from legal zoning areas as they knew them form where ever they came from ? Also, so many seem to totally misunderstand that officers of the sheriff department of their county, do not, CAN NOT, legally enforce "covenants". The Villages USED to hold class for new residents on HOW their new "government" works; that their is not mayor, that they do not have a city council, a zoning board, the country (3 different ones at present in the villages development) and the state's existing "laws" have to be followed. It's not just here, I truly feel people just do not get the basic instruction in government and civics they will need to know how to proceed in issues like this in their adult life ! I also wonder just how many people are so taken by "livin the life" that they just start signing documents and have no idea what they are agreeing to ? ? Like those who complain constantly how much they pay in amenity fees for a private GATED community... LOL ! Better said, they PAY for a community that has gates that give a pretty appearance, with flowers, and little "ambassador" houses to help people find directions, NOT to determine who can enter and who can't...LOL... but some always seem to think they should ! ?
All this said, I do AGREE the STR's (short term rentals like AB&B with 43 million rentals, Home-Away, etc. ARE a growing problem not only in the Villages but all over the world. Trouble is, very few understand what it takes to stop this legally, IF at all possible. It can be done, you can find examples of the process on line. A long and expensive task.

Originally Posted by Pairadocs (Post 2207815)

Family member in a deed restricted, 55 plus, golfing community in another state just sent us (today!) a ream of information on their residents legal attempts to fight the deterioration that short term rental has done to them. For years it was scarcely noticed, then in the last 18-24 months was everywhere. No one dreamed even the houses valued at a million would ever be rented for the night ! Drinking parties, wedding receptions "guests", none of these are exaggerations. Then a tragic death of a spring break vacationer still being investigated. BUT... when it became obvious this was multiplying, not the isolated incident it was a couple years ago, they organized, got petitions, tried to work WITH the local police and county sheriff's office. Bottom line is, almost nothing can be done. Developers are just not interested in any of it, and it not really cutting into profits, despite some bad publicity, they are still selling homes, and a multitude of buyers of properties for the rental market has been brisk. Police keep trying to explain to the resident group, that there is simply nothing they can do except remove an occasional weekend party attendee, but when people complain of their drives blocked, and cars actually resting ON lawns, the police have much higher priorities. When neighbors complained of 12 people in one home, police said they have no jurisdiction for anything like that. This was a 4 BR home, and police have nothing to do with how many people, or what age, are in a house. This definitely not limited too our Villages, and it is definitely accelerating. Those heading the resident's group my relatives are in, are now working with communities all over the USA who have successfully been able to "win", extremely limited rental "rules" in their own communities to follow their steps. It is EXTREMELY expensive, VERY good attorneys needed, and all residents have to be willing to invest the money it takes to change things. Not easy !

Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2208134)

I bet you don’t stay up all night drinking and listening to loud music and invite 6 of your best friends to share the accommodations with you - and that is why you are welcome. In general it is so nice to meet people who come from all over, with interesting stories to share. But, about those misfits; I can guarantee that the hostility towards those who will take advantage and abuse the welcoming nature of the Villages will increase as more and more of them come.

Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2208425)

Yeah, More or less I can. I taught grad school for a time. But does it matter really if they were 40 or 41? Or even 42? Huh? The thing is you’re trying to turn the topic away from the fact that the pools are not made to handle such an influx of numbers and they never had to in the past. So what’s changed? I regularly talk to people in the pool - there were several times - when I could get in, I was the ONLY resident.

Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2208457)

Again, obfuscating… do you think then this topic will go away by saying, we have many other issues also?

Originally Posted by Cybersprings (Post 2208647)

No, part of my point is that you don't get to start outlawing everything you don't like, which is what this thread is about, what progress has been made in outlawing short term rentals. And the other part is that looking down on renters and those who rent their homes, when some full time residents are just as inconsiderate as some renters and more so then other renters.

Originally Posted by oldtimes (Post 2207668)

If you do a Google search for “short term rentals ruining neighborhoods” you will see that it is already a huge and growing problem. The short term rental industry has a large group of lobbyists dedicated to preventing legislation to restrict them.

I think in an over 55 community it is an even bigger problem because people buy into an over 55 community for safety and security not a revolving door of strangers in a cheap hotel.

Originally Posted by Philipd411 (Post 2208379)

I don't think this is as big of an issue as you have made it out to be.

1,200 homes out of 80,000 is an insignificant number.

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2208509)

I just found out why one of the houses in our neighborhood looks like crap, now that it's been sold, and why one of my neighbors is thinking about moving. Turns out - the person who bought the house - is living in it. But she sectioned off her living room and is renting it BY THE NIGHT to whoever answers an ad in an Orlando newspaper, for only $50/night.

She parked her car blocking one neighbor's driveway a couple of times. And another time she parked IN a neighbor's driveway. And no she didn't have permission - the neighbor comes home from work at lunch time every day and wasn't able to park in her own driveway because the other person had their car in it. I've also seen an SUV outside in front of this person's house - not pulled over, but just - parked - in the road. Basically turning our street into a one-lane street.

All of this is happening with just one property in the neighborhood. I've told my neighbors next time this lady or her tenant blocks their driveway, to not confront them. Just call the police. And next time they park IN a neighbor's driveway - don't confront. Call the police.

Don't bother with community watch, they can't do anything about it. Blocking someone's driveway, and trespassing on someone's property - are both things the police are paid to handle.

Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2208401)

It was sure NOT insignificant when several days in a row I could not get even a chair in my neighborhood pool because of the number of people under 40 crowding everyone out!

Originally Posted by Cybersprings (Post 2208387)

Along the same lines of any progress in this area, does anyone know if there has been any progress in outlawing dogs in the squares so that my experience for entertainment and the farmers market would be better? Or not allowing dogs to live in the villages? I was promised a heavenly lifestyle in the villages, and it is greatly reduced by having dogs at the table next to me at the restaurants, or barking at the other dogs at the square, or doing their business on the sidewalk and being left there by the owner (brownwood about 3 weeks ago) or the permanent resident next to me who allows their dog out without a leash to do his business in the circle landscaping in front of our house or sometimes in my yard. My experience is greatly reduced by knowing that every place I walk in the grass or stand off the sidewalk at the square to let people pass by me that I am standing in a dog latrine. I hate knowing that everytime I go to the grocery store and put food in my cart that there is a good chance that someone has had their dog in it just before me. Or has there been any progress on outlawing the year round residents who go to the adult pools and talk so loudly with others non-stop for hours while I am just trying to relax at the pool and I really don't care about all the stuff they are telling someone else loudly? Or has there been any progress on outlawing year-round residents from having parties at their house (but only those I am not invited to) where they are loudly enjoying themselves outside and cars are parked in front of my house . On a similar note, does someone know if it is cheaper or easier to replace a sprinkler head broken by a year round resident who parked on my lawn at the party of another year round resident than those that are broken by a short term renter? Thanks for any info you have on the progress made in the areas that lower my home experience in the villages (and reduce demand by others who don't want to experience them) because of year round residents.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2208723)

I also noticed that also, but my annoyance about being CROWDED was offset by the sheer beauty of the under-40 ladies at the pool. MANY were aesthetically pleasing and quite interesting. I talked to one that traveled all over Europe and especially Israel.
.......The problem with a SMALL number of the under-40 crowd is that some that are living in TV Land are hard-core unemployables and have difficult emotional problems.

Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2208453)

What is the worst example of bad behavior by the STR crowd?

We have several STRs in my area and I have never had a problem. Most of them are decent, quiet people who can't afford to stay in a hotel at Disney World. They usually leave early in the morning and come home in the evening.

If it were all spring breakers going to Daytona Beach or college kids having a bachelor's party, it would be a different crowd and I can imagine there would be problems.

Originally Posted by Luisa (Post 2208487)

I love the idea of Airbnb. Obviously others love it also, since it is all around the world and very successful. I have been a renter and rented out my own home. Renting an Airbnb home is much more comfortable than staying in a hotel and you get a lot more for your money. It is fun to rent out my house on Airbnb because I like fixing it up, making it cute and comfortable, and little extras to make my guests happy. With that said my house is one and half hours from the wine country in California. Anyone interested?