[cunch]

4 Hours and 40 minutes to play Bonifay! What can a golfer do to stop this? The ambassadors are useless! I understand if they say anything to upset a player they will be let go. Who can we complain to?:

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by cunch

4 Hours and 40 minutes to play Bonifay! What can a golfer do to stop this? The ambassadors are useless! I understand if they say anything to upset a player they will be let go. Who can we complain to?:

The Pro is:
Brady Godfrey
Facility Manager / PGA Professional
Bonifay Golf & Country Club

Bonifay 753-1776 1033 Pinellas Place 32163

Golf The Villages

[karostay]

Don't golf then you won't be aggravated

Originally Posted by cunch

4 Hours and 40 minutes to play Bonifay! What can a golfer do to stop this? The ambassadors are useless! I understand if they say anything to upset a player they will be let go. Who can we complain to?:

Expected pace of play at Bonifay is 4 Hours and 17 minutes. So you was 23 minutes off the expected pace. Where there any restrictions that would have slowed down the pace? Not a true statement about the ambassadors. They can and should advise if someone is off the pace of play. The players do have to make an effort to speed up the pace of play and there lies part of the problem as a lot of golfers are not going to do that.

[justjim]

Perhaps the most frustrating aspect of Village golf is slow play. There is no single fix. Here are four common sense actions for all golfers to help speed up play. (1). If you are the first to hole out, retrieve the pin immediately so you can replace it as soon as all players complete putting. (2) Instead of marking your ball, hole out second putts. (3). Immediately proceed to the next tee before you write down the score of the previous hole. (4). Play "ready up" golf.

Everyone has more fun when you play "ready up" golf. This includes keeping practice swings to one or none and allowing whoever is "ready" to immediately get off their seat and give the ball a ride.

OP, I agree with you 100%. Keep swinging....never give up.

[karostay]

Golfers are not robots everyone's skill level in a group are not equal.
Chill

[NECHFalcon68]

Played there this morning, done in just over 4 hours...and we had to wait several times on the back nine (Ft Walton).
Also played Tuesday in under 4 hours...but I heard the Mens day groups that started on Pensacola were backed up...

[billethkid]

R-E-T-I-R-E-D!!!!!!!!!!

23 minutes off the suggested time is close enough for retired folks as far as I am concerned.

The one thing (there are many but his one is special) I dislike about golf is the propensity to have to be done in a certain amount of time. I always thought it was about having fun and being out with friends and or family....well it is for me.

Yes there are times I will grumble when folks in front (mostly on exec courses) are obviously taking an unreasonable way too much time, putting clubs away, keeping score, chewing the fat.....but the fact of the matter there are 75, 85 and some 90 year olds out there and some who are not as limber as they used to be. I remind myself that I hope I am able to still play when I get old(er) without someone with a stop watch on my tail.

I guess 23 minutes is to me....reasonable in a retirement community golf outing!!! But that is me!!

btk

[ajbrown]

I do not think you will find any 'golfer' that does not feel your pain. I think The Villages allotted times are very generous and should be observed by the ambassadors. Do not believe for a second they cannot work the pace of play, some are very good, always watching their course and seem to anticipate issues. A few just hand out water. Not much we as players can do, it is a universal issue until "management" wishes to deal with it.

When I have questions or concerns I have sent email via the web site page:
http://www.golfthevillages.com/contactus.asp


Go to that link and select championship golf. I find them very responsive. I suspect they would like to find a solution for pace of play also....

[Warren Kiefer]

Originally Posted by karostay

Golfers are not robots everyone's skill level in a group are not equal.
Chill

I am afraid you totally missed the point.The pace of play times are not very restrictive and usually have little to do with skill levels. If I may use a rouind on an executive course a few days ago. We had three foursomes. The foursome ahead of my foursome observed the group ahead of them doing the following. When one golfer was teeing off the other three sat in the carts until it was their turn, One of the ladies normally hit her ball less than 50 feet at which time she would run to her ball. pick it up and return to tee for a second time too tee off and at times it was three times. While in play, one male was continually giving one of the ladies golf lessons. When two of our groups were sitting at the third hole tee box, we could see that the above group was two holes behind already. Our lead group decided to pass thru the slow group, we decided to call the starter shack. Soon an ambasador showed up, sat a while and proceeded , finally stopping to talk to us. He said the "slow" group was in position and we couild not make him understand that they were not, that a group had actually passed thru. He never seemed to understand, and said that he had spoken to the "slow" group, which was not true. We had watched him drive past the "slow" group and and I assure you, he never stopped to talk to anyone..

[OCsun]

Originally Posted by billethkid

R-E-T-I-R-E-D!!!!!!!!!!

23 minutes off the suggested time is close enough for retired folks as far as I am concerned.

The one thing (there are many but his one is special) I dislike about golf is the propensity to have to be done in a certain amount of time. I always thought it was about having fun and being out with friends and or family....well it is for me.

Yes there are times I will grumble when folks in front (mostly on exec courses) are obviously taking an unreasonable way too much time, putting clubs away, keeping score, chewing the fat.....but the fact of the matter there are 75, 85 and some 90 year olds out there and some who are not as limber as they used to be. I remind myself that I hope I am able to still play when I get old(er) without someone with a stop watch on my tail.

I guess 23 minutes is to me....reasonable in a retirement community golf outing!!! But that is me!!

btk

[looneycat]

Originally Posted by billethkid

R-E-T-I-R-E-D!!!!!!!!!!

23 minutes off the suggested time is close enough for retired folks as far as I am concerned.

The one thing (there are many but his one is special) I dislike about golf is the propensity to have to be done in a certain amount of time. I always thought it was about having fun and being out with friends and or family....well it is for me.

Yes there are times I will grumble when folks in front (mostly on exec courses) are obviously taking an unreasonable way too much time, putting clubs away, keeping score, chewing the fat.....but the fact of the matter there are 75, 85 and some 90 year olds out there and some who are not as limber as they used to be. I remind myself that I hope I am able to still play when I get old(er) without someone with a stop watch on my tail.

I guess 23 minutes is to me....reasonable in a retirement community golf outing!!! But that is me!!

btk

Well....who is gonna believe you if you yell "while we're young"?

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by looneycat

Well....who is gonna believe you if you yell "while we're young"?

I LOVE those commercials Looney.

I would love to have the...um...courage to yell it sometimes.

[eweissenbach]

While I generally agree with BTK, I do get frustrated with slow play. I understand that especially on executive courses, there are many golfers that are new to the game, or less capable than others, but many times it is an issue of simply being courteous and aware and not a function of talent or ability. If the group behind you is waiting on every tee box and every shot on the fairway to hit, get a move on! You don't have to be an accomplished golfer to keep things moving, just keep things moving in a positive way. I am a quick player, and have played with slow players who I have attempted to gently prod into a sense of urgency, sometimes successfully. The USGA is now promoting the "while we're young" campaign to remind people to keep up the pace because they recognize that slow play is hurting the game and keeping many people from playing. Many people simply don't have time, or care to devote time to play five hour rounds of golf. Retired people may have the time, but it does not necessarily follow that they are willing to devote that kind of time commitment to play the game.

[Mikeod]

Originally Posted by eweissenbach

Retired people may have the time, but it does not necessarily follow that they are willing to devote that kind of time commitment to play the game.

Nor should they be able to dictate the pace and thereby the enjoyment for everyone behind them. Golf is not a sprint, nor should it be a death march. The time pace on our courses are generous.