side striping golf cart paths
 

I go all over in our golf cart, and when the sun goes down and it is dark u cannot see the edge of the paths, we need edging for safety sake. My word lets get with it, people.

It is so when one is driving drunk, in the dark, they can follow the stripe..

A common misconception about who can see and who can't, and why!:icon_wink:

Well if they do put the stripe down it will at least give somebody a line to walk on for their sobriety test

I am in awe at how 98% of us have been able to do just fine for the last 15 years!!!

Are your headlights functioning correctly?

Look down on people much?

My intent did not include any thought or intent of "looking down".
Only to present another aspect of the same thought.

Personally, I don't find it difficult to see the side edge of the path. But there may be some people in The Villages who are not as lucky as some of us to still have their good eyesight. If the side striping helps some of our residents see the sides of the cart path better, particularly in poor weather or low light, then I am all for something like that. If it helps keep anyone from running off the path in error, or helps keep them on the path and not running into someone else (like you or me), then I am all for it.

I looked closer at the dates. Maybe the time stamps are incorrect.

7/29/13, 7/22/13, 8/25/13, 8/26/13 [2 months 8 incidents]

Than 10 months with no recordings. It would be silly to think no incidents during this time.

9/13/12, 9/13/12, 9/10/12, 9/8/12, 9/7/12 [6 days 5 incidents]

I don't know what to think. Are there many unsafe drivers out there?

I know the subject is stripes not gates and $2-5 doesn't matter to me. Get the stripes. I don't think this sets any president for skyrocketing future spending on safety or softball fields.

It's just my curiosity about how many people out there may not be qualified to react quickly when a gate comes down, or animal jumps out or someone is traveling in the wrong lane for any reason.

I find it curious that you would use "safety and softball fields" in the same sentence. The softball fields are an amenity that needs to be maintained. It is not optional. A professional opinion has already been rendered for the side striping.

Just recently returned from the Multi-Modal Path Review Committee Meeting. It looks like the issue of side striping is dead for now. Kimberly-Horn reviewed their latest study and recommendations which in include markings at the medians, sharp curves and obstructions next to the paths. This appears to be a reasonable effort to make the paths safer for all. The committee adopted this report to take back to the individual districts.

No cost were discussed, but I would suspect this would be done in the individual district meetings. I hope the "haters" of side striping recognize this proposal is a good alternative and when the cost start coming out do not torpedo this effort as well.

I was somewhat disappointed that the chairman of the committee kind of cut off public discussion by saying "you must make new points to be heard". Many people left after this....

There seemed to be a lot of people at the meeting from district 8. You all have some problems down there. Also, it looked like they all drove their cars. Are the paths unsafe between district 8 and the Savannah Center?

For my part as long as this discussion stays about district 8, I will remain silent, that is unless someone post something really stupid….

"....that is unless someone post something really stupid…. "

I think you mean UNTIL:1rotfl:

[QUOTE=Mleeja;1117372]Just recently returned from the Multi-Modal Path Review Committee Meeting.

thanks for going and sharing

One question: Was anyone saving any seats?

I suspect that there are many like me who are opposed to the striping for reasons already stated too many times to date.

HOWEVER, please be advised that being opposed DOES NOT equate to hate.

No seat savers! Lot's of empty seats. Hummmm. However I think I saw a couple of people there from District 5 packing chain saws and I got the impression the building was sinking as the meeting was taking place. :bigbow:

I was also there. The chairman appropriately reminded the group that a decision has already been made. Therefore only new information that was not presented before the decision would be welcome. This was done after a supervisor from one of the districts made a pro-strip argument. One of the committee members stated that this subject has been "beat to death".

Now let me address your insults. I am a "hater" of side stripes. I see the proposed path alterations as logical and needed. I hope they get implimented. And, I am from district 8 and I drove my car.

Striping
 

I understand some peoples concern. If there needs to be marking it should be centerline reflectors which they do now. I am sure they could identify the high accident areas and mark them. The striping is expensive and is a recurring cost. The reflectors would be less expensive and cheaper to replace as a recurring cost

Yes, it was interesting that the chairman did not cut off the anti-stripe speakers. The person he cut off is a supervisor from district 2, my distrct. What he was trying to say about Buena Vista and El Camino is 100% correct.

I am not a member of the POA and generally do not support thier agenda. They have control of the District 8 board. Since the organization supports striping I can see a "fight" on your board to reverse the decision. You might just findout what the people really want.

Remember what ever you spend now you will be spending every year or two. So the real cost is much higher than you think. Kind of like a tax you will never get rid of it.

Where did you get the idea that District 8 residents wanted side striping?

I don't think that the POA controls the district 8 board. I voted for those people BECAUSE they are members of the POA, and that is a plus in my book. They are of like minds with the POA, and therefore with my husband and I.

I'm a resident in District 8. Setting the cost of striping aside, I want to see something uniform throughout if it's going to be done at all. As I understand it, the engineers are against the striping so if our District 8 goes ahead with the striping and someone sues saying they tripped on it or it blinded them, etc., who is on the hook for the lawyer fees and any settlements?

That other newspaper said the striping would be raised to help navigate the trickier section of the path. REALLY such BS.

Three members of the board have ties to the POA. The POA has came out in support of side striping. I am making a leap of faith that the POA membership in district 8 have expressed thier support of striping to these three district supervisors.

I would vote against them for the same reason.

I would love to see a brand new homeowners association that represented homeowners area wide and that did not have affiliation with the developer. I think the POA is not a group I can relate to at all.

I think the VHA is valuable and does good things but it is affiliated to the developer.


What villages does district 8 cover? I thought it was the area around Nancy Lopez, but apparently I am wrong.

So would many others now.

To each his own. And I believe that Somehow your village is part of District 8, so you may get the chance.
I could be wrong. Thought I read that somewhere.

Well, I guess you haven't read enough of these postings. Lots of folks with legitimate concerns pro & con, but lots that just seemed like they needed a soft target for their anger.

I attended meeting as well, and your report is spot on.
I'm looking forward to a positive outcome now with more emphasis on safety.
One add'l comment - after their discussions it seemed like a real conciliatory atmosphere among committee members and also among audience members. then the PWAC rep made some comments that were extremely one-sided and you could feel atmosphere in room revert to the earlier tension that existed.

Village of Bridgeport at Laurel Manor is District 8 according to the Neighborhood page of The Villages website. Did you vote for those guys, GG?!!:faint:

Drive at night much, during rain, early tee time maybe?
you speak from experience??

Just for clarification, are you referring to the comments from the original Kimberly-Horn report or the one presented in July and reviewed in today's meeting?

No. I wasn't aware of the election to tell you the truth.

The gentleman making the pro-striping comments was stopped by the chairman because his time had expired. Not because of what he was saying.

If you want the cart paths to be safer, start testing golf carts for legal speed limits 20 mph. and not allow any faster carts. Striping isn't going to help the idiot passing you going over 20.

Striping is not the answer to all problems with golf cart accidents.


Today's news..........Villager arrested in Winn-Dixie parking lot for crashing his cart had tee many drinkie poos plus some pot....and you can see how his cart looks on the online news. He DIDN'T want bystanders to call the cops. He did not say whether he was for or against striping.

How would you suggest they start testing golf carts? There are over 50,000 golf carts in The Villages. Are you suggesting that testing stations be setup? Who is going to pay for that? Assuming you could test 100 carts a day, that would take 2 years to test them all. How often are you going to require a retest? You would have to pass some sort of law that required carts to be tested - good luck with that. Assuming you could actually test carts for a maximum speed, right after the test the owners could adjust the governor (for gas carts) to increase the speed above 20 mph. Carts from The Villages Golf Cart store come setup for a maximum of 20 mph. I know many people who put a zip tie on the governor to increase the speed to 25 mph or so. According to you, someone who goes 22 mph to pass a cart going 15 mph is an idiot. I generally prefer not to call people names.