[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

So, in your example, a police officer on the scene should give a ticket to the guy going the speed limit and let the speeding jerk get away?

If I were the LEO I would ticket both of them, and the fine for the speeder should be triple that for the lane hog. But that's just my opinion.
This isn't about justifying speeding, it's about drivers who think they get to appoint themselves enforcers of how THEY think everyone else should drive.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

Probably, but then you have no business in the left hand lane. But there is no law that says that you must drive in the right hand lane except to pass or make a left hand turn. if I'm in the left hand lane going the speed limit and there is no one behind me I'm not going to be pulled over for breaking the law.

Despite an incorrect link some months back to explain the law state by state, it absolutely IS the law in Michigan. There are signs on the highways stating "Keep Left Except to Pass--It's the Law." Within the past year, there was an announcement to the Michigan driving public that efforts to enforce this law were being expanded.

Traffic camping out in the passing lane has always been a big problem in Michigan for some reason. That and the fact that Detroit removed all turn signals from Michigan cars years ago... but I digress.

[Shimpy]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

And right there is the problem. Read THE LAW again, the person in the left lane is REQUIRED to move over, REGARDLESS of the relative speeds of the vehicles. So the driver who "FEELS" no one should be able to pass HIM is 110% WRONG. HE does not get to dictate HIS viewpoint on everyone else. HE is not the law nor a LEO. It is NOT HIS job. HE is not a dictator. So if some jerk wants to go way over the speed limit, that is between him and the law, NOT a self appointed speed monitor who is violating the law himself.

This left lane hugger may be impeding a driver taking his kid to the hospital who couldn't call 911 or have the time for them to respond. There are many reasons for some to go over the limit. Stay in the right lane except to pass or turn left shortly.

[Chatbrat]

They're on vacation, they're lost, they're on the phone or they're admiring the lad scape in the medians--whatever, they should not be in the left lane--as soon as the LEO's , start enforcing real violations-we'll all be more relaxed

[NoMoSno]

I'm happy everyone's not in the right lane on 441 during rush hour.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by NoMoSno

I'm happy everyone's not in the right lane on 441 during rush hour.

I don't really think this thread is about heavy traffic on a 6 lane road at rush hour. It is referring to someone going slow in the left lane with no one ahead of him for 1/2 mile but 25 cars piled up behind him because he won't move over. It is particularly egregious when he does it on purpose because HE thinks the speed limit is too high, so HE is going to cram HIS opinion down everyone else's throat.

[Polar Bear]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

So, in your example, a police officer on the scene should give a ticket to the guy going the speed limit and let the speeding jerk get away?

They're both breaking the law. Ticket them both.

[retiredguy123]

I am amazed at how much interest there is with this topic. Compared to other things that people do every day to slow you down, this should be very low on the priority list. On a 20 mile trip, driving 50 mph vs 45 mph, will only save you 2.7 minutes.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

I am amazed at how much interest there is with this topic. Compared to other things that people do every day to slow you down, this should be very low on the priority list. On a 20 mile trip, driving 50 mph vs 45 mph, will only save you 2.7 minutes.

There are many interesting things to debate in life. Why not thoroughly discuss them all.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by CFrance

Despite an incorrect link some months back to explain the law state by state, it absolutely IS the law in Michigan. There are signs on the highways stating "Keep Left Except to Pass--It's the Law." Within the past year, there was an announcement to the Michigan driving public that efforts to enforce this law were being expanded.

Traffic camping out in the passing lane has always been a big problem in Michigan for some reason. That and the fact that Detroit removed all turn signals from Michigan cars years ago... but I digress.

I don't live in Michigan and I believe that we're discussing the laws in the state of Florida.

But even in Michigan, I doubt that anyone would get pulled over for driving the speed limit in the left hand lane if there were no cars for miles behind him.

The law in Florida states that if you are in the left hand lane and a car behind you wants to pass, you must move over and allow that car to pass. If I'm not mistaken, this is the gist of the problem being discussed here. In fact there are some signs on the highways here stating this.

Basically it comes down to this. If you are in the right hand lane and someone in front of you is going slow, pull into the left hand lane and go around them. if you are in the right hand lane and there is someone behind you and no one in front of you, MOVE OVER! It's simple.

Obviously an exception can be made when a person is preparing to make a left hand turn. But in that case, they should have their signal on so the person behind them knows what to expect.

But I think that the real problem is that many drivers almost never look in their mirrors. They think they are being safe by staring at the road in front of them. Or, they are so absorbed in conversation or the radio that they don't notice other cars around them. Most of the ones that I've had to pass on the right look surprised when they see me. I don't know how you can drive a vehicle and not be aware of other vehicles behind, in front or to the side of you. But it appear to me that many drivers don't.

[THUNDERCHIEF]

Originally Posted by rubicon

i may be wrong but i believe that statue was passed primarily to deal with interstate highways such as the florida turnpike.

Enforcing this statue on a road such as 466 wherein the top speed is primarily 45 mph is very problematic. If strictly enforced it would bring traffic down to almost a halt

this topic like a number of others on this forum results in repeated flashpoints and a consensus will never be reached.

Merry christmas

if i drive over the speed limit in the left lane people still want to run over me, and go 80 or 85 mph what is everyones hurry?

[toeser]

If there is a lot of traffic in both lanes, as there often is, and I am going the full legal speed limit, I am not going to try to squeeze into the right lane just to accommodate your speeding.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by toeser

If there is a lot of traffic in both lanes, as there often is, and I am going the full legal speed limit, I am not going to try to squeeze into the right lane just to accommodate your speeding.

Why don't you just start out in the right lane?

[Two Bills]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

I am amazed at how much interest there is with this topic. Compared to other things that people do every day to slow you down, this should be very low on the priority list. On a 20 mile trip, driving 50 mph vs 45 mph, will only save you 2.7 minutes.

2.7 mins?
I could have sex, drink pint of beer, eat a burger, and still have time to read my emails before you got there at 45mph.
I better do 60mph, as I like a ciggy after sex!!

[fred53]

Originally Posted by THUNDERCHIEF

if i drive over the speed limit in the left lane people still want to run over me, and go 80 or 85 mph what is everyones hurry?

what their hurry is. Move over and let them get on with their life. Not your business.