[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by MikeyBoo54

http://www.kappit.com/img/pics/201603_2336_bddic.jpg

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[retiredguy123]

When everyone has a self-driving car, the idea may seem more reasonable. Current GPS systems already know the speed limit where the car is driving. I believe that some slow drivers are actually not capable of driving with the flow because of they are physically impaired and possibly could not pass a driving test. Some may be driving in the left lane because they know they will make a left turn at some point and they are not comfortable changing lanes.

[rubicon]

I had to make a run to the airport this AM. Noted as you get on Florida Turnpike there is a huge traffic sign that say in bold letters move over its the law ( referring to slower traffic to move right). Again I say while this Statute can and will be used on all roads it was enacted with interstates in mind. and if memory serves we had a thread on this very subject sometime back concerning the Florida Turnpike. it just becomes more problematic and conflicting when you apply this Statue to roads such as 466 vis a vis Florida Turnpike.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by rubicon

I had to make a run to the airport this AM. Noted as you get on Florida Turnpike there is a huge traffic sign that say in bold letters move over its the law ( referring to slower traffic to move right). Again I say while this Statute can and will be used on all roads it was enacted with interstates in mind. and if memory serves we had a thread on this very subject sometime back concerning the Florida Turnpike. it just becomes more problematic and conflicting when you apply this Statue to roads such as 466 vis a vis Florida Turnpike.

Really?

So why did local police put this sign up on 466...back in April?


Police Dept. sign on 466

[rubicon]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

Really?

So why did local police put this sign up on 466...back in April?


Police Dept. sign on 466

Would you please go back and re-read what I wrote. I said the Statue did apply to all roads. However I also said it was more problematic and conflicting on a road such as 466. Geezz.

You have been following me around this forum for the expressed purpose of calling me out on everything I address. So let's come to an understanding and I will say in front of God and this membership that you are always right and I am always wrong.
Does that satisfy your ergo?

Personal Best Regards:

[ColdNoMore]

Here's your direct quote....

Originally Posted by rubicon

.....it was enacted with interstates in mind.

I simply showed if that were really true...why would the authorities have put up the sign on 466?


Of course, I'm going with the assumption that local law enforcement knows more about the intent of the law...than those of us who who just drive.

[spring_chicken]

Originally Posted by rubicon

I had to make a run to the airport this AM. Noted as you get on Florida Turnpike there is a huge traffic sign that say in bold letters move over its the law ( referring to slower traffic to move right). Again I say while this Statute can and will be used on all roads it was enacted with interstates in mind. and if memory serves we had a thread on this very subject sometime back concerning the Florida Turnpike. it just becomes more problematic and conflicting when you apply this Statue to roads such as 466 vis a vis Florida Turnpike.

The Move Over law is referencing moving OUT of the right lane when a cop has someone pulled over on the RIGHT shoulder. Nothing to do with the conversation at hand.

"Move Over Law Summary. Drivers must vacate the lane closest to the stationary emergency vehicle, tow truck, sanitation, or utility vehicle. Drivers must slow down to a speed of 20 mph below the posted speed limit if they cannot move over safely."

[2BNTV]

I drove up from Ft. Lauderdale today and many people stayed in the left lane and wouldn't move to the right, (slower drivers).

I didn't see one ticket being issued for the slower drivers or people going over the speed limit. Does it kill someone to turn the wheel slightly and move over to the right lane and out of harm's way?

I'm surprised no one mentioned the possibility of "road rage" for those who feel they are self-imposed captains of the road. I prefer to let those who want to zoom past me, unfettered access. If they get a ticket, it's on them.

Personally, human nature hasn't changed in a long time along with people's ingrained driving habits. Those that feel the need to put themselves in harm's way are being foolish. One person tried to squeeze in and I had to hit my horn and brakes to let them know there wasn't enough room but he did it anyway saving him/her, a total of two seconds of time. Shhhheeeeeezzzzzzzeeeeee!!!!!!

This is an unsolvable problem. IMHO

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by spring_chicken

The Move Over law is referencing moving OUT of the right lane when a cop has someone pulled over on the RIGHT shoulder. Nothing to do with the conversation at hand.

"Move Over Law Summary. Drivers must vacate the lane closest to the stationary emergency vehicle, tow truck, sanitation, or utility vehicle. Drivers must slow down to a speed of 20 mph below the posted speed limit if they cannot move over safely."

Good catch, I totally misunderstood what he was trying to say.

You are absolutely correct, 'Move Over' has nothing to do with this subject and only addresses when police (or other specified type vehicles)..are on the right shoulder.

Move Over Law | Florida DMV

Move Over Law Summary

On Multi-Lane Roads

- Drivers must vacate the lane closest to the stationary emergency vehicle, tow truck, sanitation, or utility vehicle.

- Drivers must slow down to a speed of 20 mph below the posted speed limit if they cannot move over safely.

- Drivers who are not in the lane closest to the stationary vehicle should be prepared to allow those who are to move over into their lane.

[rubicon]

Originally Posted by spring_chicken

The Move Over law is referencing moving OUT of the right lane when a cop has someone pulled over on the RIGHT shoulder. Nothing to do with the conversation at hand.

"Move Over Law Summary. Drivers must vacate the lane closest to the stationary emergency vehicle, tow truck, sanitation, or utility vehicle. Drivers must slow down to a speed of 20 mph below the posted speed limit if they cannot move over safely."

You may be right as I had only time enough to view the big top wording at the top of the sign. and since you are right about emergency vehicles then I stand corrected as to this signage.

However again my only point has been that while not maintaining a continuum in the left lane and impeding traffic its application is easier applied on the Turnpike and interstates here. And I said that it obviously applies to all four lane roads but that it is more problematic and creates conflicting signals or drivers are lesser roads. Such Statues and posting serve as forewarned is forearmed notices

As I recall law enforcement posted a sign forbidding passing on the right. I recall the sign on 466 and believed it was posted in the Lake County section of 466? However the sign didn't last long nor did it have any affect on the traffic pattern on 466.

If the cops believe this is becoming a larger problem and/or citizens call complaining then they will go out and issue tickets.

I'm finished with this thread

[roob1]

Interesting video:

This is why you shouldn’t drive slow in the left lane – District Speed

[dave from deland]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

This issue will never be solved. Although the law requires slower drivers to move to the right, it also requires all drivers to drive within the speed limit. So, if a driver is moving at 45 mph in a 45 mph zone, he feels that no one should be able pass without breaking the law, and he is correct on that point. So, what difference does it make which lane he is in? In a court of law, I don't see how the law could be enforced against a driver who is driving at the speed limit.

Exactly. The SPEED LIMIT is the same in both lanes.

[Polar Bear]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

...So, if a driver is moving at 45 mph in a 45 mph zone, he feels that no one should be able pass without breaking the law, and he is correct on that point...

No, he's not. He's very wrong if he thinks that.

Have you ever heard of emergencies? Or other extenuating circumstances? Besides, the law as written says he must move over for vehicles traveling faster than he is...even if he is traveling the speed limit. It's very clear and very simple.

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

...In a court of law, I don't see how the law could be enforced against a driver who is driving at the speed limit.

I hope you don't plan to test that theory.

[VillagerNut]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

Here's your direct quote....





I simply showed if that were really true...why would the authorities have put up the sign on 466?


Of course, I'm going with the assumption that local law enforcement knows more about the intent of the law...than those of us who who just drive.

The reason I believe Lake County had the mobile sign is the fact that folks that need to do a U turn cannot do so with folks driving in the left lane. There are several homes and businesses that you have to do a U turn when you come out! So many people drive in the left lane long before their left turn is coming up! But I do not want traffic backed up because folks are only using the right lane in fear of a ticket!

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by VillagerNut

The reason I believe Lake County had the mobile sign is the fact that folks that need to do a U turn cannot do so with folks driving in the left lane. There are several homes and businesses that you have to do a U turn when you come out! So many people drive in the left lane long before their left turn is coming up! But I do not want traffic backed up because folks are only using the right lane in fear of a ticket!

Not true.

You don't 'have to' make a u-turn...where there is no dedicated left hand turn lane.

It just means you might have to drive an extra 15-30 seconds...until you get to a dedicated left hand turn lane.

I realize some people may find this to be an unacceptable inconvenience...but hey.