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Byte1 08-29-2020 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by cherylncliff (Post 1824682)
And indeed you are free to practice whatever religion or non-religion belief you want as long as you do not infringe on other people's rights. In this case, the display of any lawn ornament is forbidden in some of the districts per an agreement that you sign and agree to abide when you purchase. That is the issue here, not religion but obeying the legal agreement that was signed.

How does violating a deed restriction "infringe on other people's rights?" I agree that folks should not display a little white cross on YOUR property. That might "infringe on" your rights. But, I do not see how a deed violation "infringes on other people's rights."

talleyjm 08-29-2020 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1824319)
Agree. Those white crosses are offensive to me also. I do not like seeing the white crosses but I live with them and have never made a formal complaint about them. I must admit though, the amount of white crosses in people's yards has dropped drastically. Maybe others have been complaining about them.

Are your delicate sensibilities also offended when you spot a crucifix around a person’s neck?

kendi 08-29-2020 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Kenklaw13 (Post 1824247)
I understand there is a lawsuit pending against a village household for displaying a small white cross in their yard. The last time I looked at the constitution,we were still guaranteed freedom"of" religion and not freedom "from" religion.
Time for Christians to stand up and be counted. Would be interesting to see hundreds if not thousands of "little white crosses"
pop-up all over the villages.

God is great; Beer is good; People are crazy!
KenK.

“Give to Caesar what is Caesar’s.” In other words, follow the rules. Display the cross under the guidelines that the owner should have been aware of when they bought. I don’t remember lawlessness being promoted in the Bible.

sallybowron 08-29-2020 09:08 AM

crosses
 
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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1824273)
I'm on the other end.......South of 466a.

Very few around here.

Why??.....because I call them all in. :1rotfl:

Why do we spend so much time worrying about when there are so many great things to do around here? I will grant you that we have been stuck at home more since the pandemic started, but why waste the time we do have by fighting :boxing2::boxing2::boxing2:?

kendi 08-29-2020 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by quietpine (Post 1824668)
I read that the white cross originated in Wisconsin as a protest. Yes folks, the people who display those crosses are protestors! You know, like the people protesting police shootings of unarmed black men.

The little white crosses have been around for decades. And not as a protest against police

benj 08-29-2020 09:10 AM

Crosses
 
Everyone who has a white cross displayed signed a contract promising to abide by the rules. Everyone of you who now display crosses are dishonest people. Not very Christian if you ask

Pbthrockm@msn.com 08-29-2020 09:15 AM

Why white crosses
 
The Knights of Columbus knows the story about the white cross.
Placing a white cross in your yard makes a statement

It means In God We Trust we are a Christian nation. Our country was founded on Judeo-Christian principles.
We stand together for our religious heritage and freedom.

kendi 08-29-2020 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 1824590)
If you have to have a little white cross in your yard to feel like a good person, maybe you need to think about that.

Probably doesn’t feel good getting blasted with complaints. Doubt your interpretation of their intentions is accurate.

Pamelah 08-29-2020 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by talleyjm (Post 1824684)
:ho::ohdear:

You hit the nail on the head. I’m really surprised that a small, white cross outside of a neighbor’s home can offend folk.

We are all different. What you like I may not. What I find disagreeable you might be ok with. It’s what makes us a country and tolerance of others beliefs is key. As someone earlier here said, I don’t feel a need to live full time up north, we love the Villages. But for peace and harmony deeded restrictions should be enforced.

kendi 08-29-2020 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by drgoofy (Post 1824529)
Are the crosses there as a warning to keep all other religions away? If they're such great Christians, why would they need to advertise? Wouldn't we all know by their Jesus-esque actions???

Evangelize, not advertise. And it’s not about being exclusive as you suggest. You certainly don’t understand Christianity. Best to know what you’re talking about before criticizing.

OrangeBlossomBaby 08-29-2020 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Pbthrockm@msn.com (Post 1824718)
The Knights of Columbus knows the story about the white cross.
Placing a white cross in your yard makes a statement

It means In God We Trust we are a Christian nation. Our country was founded on Judeo-Christian principles.
We stand together for our religious heritage and freedom.

The cross has *nothing* to do with Judeo anything. The Jewish religion was founded on the Old Testament. Christianity bypasses it and skips over to the New Testament.

Marshaw 08-29-2020 09:39 AM

OMG people. They are in yards to let people know that this particular house is housing Christian's. It's just fine to have them. Most importantly I beleive they are legal only north of 466

HogPilot 08-29-2020 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by perrjojo (Post 1824385)
I’m with those who thought is was a marker for a deceased pet. In fact I told my neighbor that I was sorry her pet had passed. If you must tell the world you are Christian well...I’m not impressed. Whatever your religion, live it for the good. As someone else said, yes, we have freedom of religion, not just one religion so be prepared for other symbols as well.

I too always thought it was for a resident whose pet that passed away until I read this forum post.

OrangeBlossomBaby 08-29-2020 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by kendi (Post 1824705)
“Give to Caesar what is Caesar’s.” In other words, follow the rules. Display the cross under the guidelines that the owner should have been aware of when they bought. I don’t remember lawlessness being promoted in the Bible.

I think you have absolutely no idea what that means. And it's "Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's", translated from the greek Ἀπόδοτε οὖν τὰ Καίσαρος Καίσαρι καὶ τὰ τοῦ Θεοῦ τῷ Θεῷ from the book of Matthew.

The context - is that the Roman authorities demanded that Judeans pay a special poll tax. Theoretically, Jesus was expected to oppose this tax, though there's controversy on whether or not the coin used to symbolize the tax even existed when Jesus was alive.

So once again, we have persecution of the Jews, in the name of religion.

Velvet 08-29-2020 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1824735)
The cross has *nothing* to do with Judeo anything. The Jewish religion was founded on the Old Testament. Christianity bypasses it and skips over to the New Testament.

Well, not everywhere. At my Bible College each testament was given equal value historically. Creation starts with the Old Testament. If you leave it out you have only half the story. I actually even knew all the “begats” at one point. Interpretations may differ though. One had to understand the original language it was written in. My first boyfriend in high school was a rabbi’s son and I remember how differently we could interpret the same passages.


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