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Curtisbwp 08-29-2020 10:16 AM

I thought if it was kept under the eve of the house it is ok, but not sure. On the flip side, is it ok to place a statue of SATAN on a lawn??

bpascani 08-29-2020 10:18 AM

I would not consider putting a cross up in defiance , but I would be more than willing to sign a petition to allow it. I don't want to get anything new started, but, there are many other 'yard ornaments' in many yards/front gardens in lots of "villages" here, so I don't see the problem. I never knew what they symbolized anyway....made my own assumption, then was told it was something else...and now this...none of these subjects are offensive, IMO.

024engine 08-29-2020 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Kenklaw13 (Post 1824247)
I understand there is a lawsuit pending against a village household for displaying a small white cross in their yard. The last time I looked at the constitution,we were still guaranteed freedom"of" religion and not freedom "from" religion.
Time for Christians to stand up and be counted. Would be interesting to see hundreds if not thousands of "little white crosses"
pop-up all over the villages.

God is great; Beer is good; People are crazy!
KenK.

I rode around my neighborhood a couple of evenings I go and in a half an hour's time sounded 47 little white crosses. How can you charge one person with a violation when there are thousands of little white crosses in The Villages?

Byte1 08-29-2020 10:41 AM

“He that is without sin among you, let him cast the first stone..."

Being offended by a li'l white cross in someone else's yard amuses me. PC seems to run rampant everywhere today. Heaven help the grandkids if something as minor as this is life changing for some pitiful and miserable people. Sorry if I do not take the offense seriously. I KNOW how important someone else's minor infraction is to some that have no lives.
Since it is obviously NOT against my deed restrictions to display a cross in my yard, I think I will put one in the same area as my little garden gnome. For anyone that gets hit by the trolls, that may own a couple of those big gray bird yard ornaments, I'll be interested in purchasing them for a decent price. I might try to find a couple of those pink flamingos to put in my front yard, if I can find some that aren't plastic.

Byte1 08-29-2020 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1824735)
The cross has *nothing* to do with Judeo anything. The Jewish religion was founded on the Old Testament. Christianity bypasses it and skips over to the New Testament.

Some folks should look up the term "Judeo Christian" and see how it is used in the statement that was made. I don't know where some folks went to Bible school, but Christianity NEVER "bypassed" the old Testament. I sincerely hope that my intent to correct a misconception was not "offensive."

Dburesh 08-29-2020 10:52 AM

We got a call from Community Standards to take our cross down!

Byte1 08-29-2020 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by benj (Post 1824709)
Everyone who has a white cross displayed signed a contract promising to abide by the rules. Everyone of you who now display crosses are dishonest people. Not very Christian if you ask

No offense meant, but if I was going to ask anyone if something I was doing was Christian-like, I would ask GOD. You know, someone that would really know and give me an honest answer. :pray:

PugMom 08-29-2020 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by swooner (Post 1824522)
All for religious freedom and all kinds of freedom of choice, including political preferences. Believe symbols of all those things should remain in the house and not be on display in front yards.

dittos. why not just place them indoors? i'm not anti-religion, but a deed is a deed. i'd think it would be more comforting inside where the family can see it, no?

cindyfeh 08-29-2020 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1824735)
The cross has *nothing* to do with Judeo anything. The Jewish religion was founded on the Old Testament. Christianity bypasses it and skips over to the New Testament.

Christians do not skip the Old Testament. The New Testament fulfills the OT. Our country was founded on Judeo Christian ethics.

Velvet 08-29-2020 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1824824)
No offense meant, but if I was going to ask anyone if something I was doing was Christian-like, I would ask GOD. You know, someone that would really know and give me an honest answer. :pray:

You made me smile.

You know “Fiddler on the Roof”? I’ve often been jealous of how Tevye, the dairyman, in the show, seems to just be able to talk to God as I would, say to my uncle. Wouldn’t it be nice?

My impression is that these little white crosses mean different things to different people.

coffeebean 08-29-2020 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 1824561)
They're free.

Who ever gives them away has an agenda.

coffeebean 08-29-2020 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Leadbone1 (Post 1824580)
Totally agree! I understand the need for deed restrictions and I am glad they are there for the most part. But deed restrictions that violate your constitutional rights cannot stand. The first amendment guarantees you the free exercise thereof with regard to your religion. It doesn’t say except if a deed restriction doesn’t like it! If there is a deed restriction with regard to a cross in your yard it should be with regard to the size of it, not whether you can have it or not. Obviously we would not want someone putting a 15 foot high cross in their front yard. Common sense needs to be applied

The first amendment is all about the freedom to worship your religion in your preferred place of worship. I honestly don't believe the first amendment is addressing your right to display little white crosses in your front yard.

coffeebean 08-29-2020 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DecaturFargo (Post 1824588)
And white crosses in the front yards must go.

There are white crosses in people's back yard but those back yards face major roads with lots of traffic.

OrangeBlossomBaby 08-29-2020 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Curtisbwp (Post 1824782)
I thought if it was kept under the eve of the house it is ok, but not sure. On the flip side, is it ok to place a statue of SATAN on a lawn??

If it's okay to place the physical representation of the device used to torture and murder the "savior" of someone's religion, then it's okay to place the physical representation of a deity, regardless of anyone's opinion of that deity. Satan was either a god or a demi-god, depending on your religion. Seems kosher to me for someone to put up a statue of one, as their personal religious symbol.

Unless - religious symbols aren't allowed on lawns. In which case - people need to get the white crosses off their lawns.

Marathon Man 08-29-2020 11:56 AM

Here is an idea. Those of you who are certain that you have a right to place a cross in your yard, go ahead and report yourself to Community Standards. Then you can put your money where your mouth is and begin your legal fight to keep it.


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