[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by Rose Haverlack

I think we should be apprised of people who "turn us in" because we should be able to face our accusers. For those people who are against the little white crosses, get real! Too many have been turned in for that "infraction" and it's silly. If it offends someone because s/he has no religious belief, why should those who do practice a faith be subjected to the others' hedonistic ways?

Just out of curiosity, and for all the others with your same point of view, exactly what actions would you take and what exactly does "face your accuser" mean...once you knew who it was that turned you in?

Intimidation?

Retribution?

???

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by Rose Haverlack

I think we should be apprised of people who "turn us in" because we should be able to face our accusers. For those people who are against the little white crosses, get real! Too many have been turned in for that "infraction" and it's silly. If it offends someone because s/he has no religious belief, why should those who do practice a faith be subjected to the others' hedonistic ways?

What type(s) of (illegal) yard ornaments, represents that the homeowner follows..."hedonistic ways?"

By definition, shouldn't someone who displays a white cross to proclaim they are a Christian...at least try to follow the tenets described thereof?

I can't help but notice, a lot of downright 'un-Christian' reactions and posts...toward anyone who is against white crosses on lawns.

Is it just me that finds this...highly hypocritical?

[Mikeod]

Originally Posted by goodhnds

An American flag or cross will hardly turn this into a trailer park. I understand the rules but let respect and common sense prevail.

Respect. Maybe the problem would be lessened by people respecting their agreement to abide by the deed restrictions as shown by their signature on the purchase documents. My residence is in compliance and, by chance, it was not and was reported by someone, the blame would be mine alone. And certainly not the person who reported it.

I’ve read some hypothetical situations posted in opposition to the anonymous reporting system but what they really do is support homeowners adhering to the deed restrictions. It’s not the system, it’s people failing to honor the commitment they accepted by purchasing here.

[FenneyFanatic]

Originally Posted by Mikeod

Respect. Maybe the problem would be lessened by people respecting their agreement to abide by the deed restrictions as shown by their signature on the purchase documents. My residence is in compliance and, by chance, it was not and was reported by someone, the blame would be mine alone. And certainly not the person who reported it.

I’ve read some hypothetical situations posted in opposition to the anonymous reporting system but what they really do is support homeowners adhering to the deed restrictions. It’s not the system, it’s people failing to honor the commitment they accepted by purchasing here.

[NavyVet]

True (and funny) story: First bought in Woodbury in 2003, new neighborhood. Restrictions/compliance was really strict back then. Community Standards/watch whatever drove around checking for "Violators". Garden gazing balls were very popular then, saw them everywhere including other neighborhoods and villages. So I bought one and put it IN my garden surrounded by shrubs and flowers. It was not on my lawn. A couple weeks go by and I come home to an official warning ticket on front door knob. Oops. BTW, I am a rule following type of person. Apparently can't have a gazing ball in the garden. Okay fine, I moved gazing ball to rear yard against lanai where it lived for several years. No problem. Our yard backed up to a fence.
It gets 'better'. We had a company do a screened in front porch with door, etc. All ARC approved of course. During the work, we had to get everything off our porch and out of their way. We had a plain white cement/concrete statue of a dog holding a basket of flowers. It was extremely heavy. We TEMPORARILY moved it to the corner of our sidewalk until it could go back to living ON OUR PORCH. The SAME DAY the porch was completed and workers had left, someone stopped their white truck, came up to our door and gave me a verbal 'warning' that the statue can not be out there. I was like come on, really? I explained why it was out there for ONE FREAKING DAY, that I couldn't pick it up and carry it myself, and my husband would deal with it when he got home. If the guy couldn't wait until hubby was home, he was more than welcome to put it on the porch himself. Jeez!
THAT, my friends, is the definition of OVERZEALOUS rules enforcers in TV! LOL!
I realize it takes all kinds, people are different, but I have always minded my own business and I appreciate people who do the same.
Extremism either way is not a good thing. If everyone used common sense and lived by the Golden Rule, we'd ALL be better off. Have a peaceful day!

[Skunky1]

Well put!

[Velvet]

Would it have made a difference if you say put a blanket on the dog statue to indicate it was being moved?

Did the warning give you a time frame to comply with the warning?

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by EdFNJ

Little white crosses grow into 8 foot tall crosses made with 2x4's and lit up with a spotlight in the middle of a lawn for 4+ months of every year.

Are you referring to Christmas time? That is not 4+ months of the years. More like the month of December. I don't know what you are getting at.

[Velvet]

I think someone was trying to get at the idea if you have an illegal ornament, add a Christmas bow to it, then change it to a Valentine heart, then add Easter eggs etc etc throughout the year.

We had a family on a street I once lived on (not in TV) that had a life style statue of holy Mary, two 8 foot blue Smurfs and a very large blown up Santa all year long.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Martian

Well, section 4 of my covenants say "Lawn ornaments are prohibited, except for seasonal displays"

So, basically it says you can put out a set of lawn ornament for every season... I think there are four seasons, and between them they make up the whole year...

WOW.....good catch. I always thought of seasonal displays as Christmas time only. Never dawned on me that we could display lawn ornaments for Summer, Spring and Fall. Hmmm. Something to think about.

I don't have the rules in front of me but, (correct me if I'm wrong here); I have always been under the impression the Christmas displays must be down by the first week in January. No?

So.........given that time frame for Christmas displays, when do the Summer, Spring and Fall displays have to be down by? See what I'm getting at?

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Chi-Town

You know a couple of pink flamingos being OK'd opens the door for their ancestors



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Is this for real? Yikes!!!

[perrjojo]

Originally Posted by Mortal1

with turning in folks with deed restriction violations.

Seems to me folks moved here in large part because of those deed restrictions. And since most are not enforced unless they are reported I'd think those who make it their duty to help enforce restrictions would be thanked.

Perhaps those who complain of those who help enforce the restrictions are those who break the simple to understand even by a 7 year old rules are upset.

Perhaps those who don't appreciate the folks who don't want our neighborhoods looking like a trailer park filled with degenerates are part of the problem.

Perhaps they just don't like people doing what is right and proper.

My take? Those who complain and continually post about those who keep the villages looking nice are usually in violation of more than one deed restriction.

Keep up the good work in reporting violations!!! If you don't like them you can always move to San Fran or L.A. or Seattle. You'd like it there. No restrictions at all. Watch where you step.

The restrictions are simple and easy to follow. All of them have a purpose. If you don't see the purpose perhaps it's because of the narrow view you take.

I agree with you 100%. The reason the complaint system is complaint driven is because having someone driving around and reporting every violation would be expensive. As large as TV is it would take a large department to deal with all of the violations and we would pay for this via increase amenity fees. I lived in a neighborhood of only 1300 homes and the expense of having someone deal with violations was costly.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Northwoods

Totally agree!!! You choose to move here. You sign a contact. But for some people they decide they don't like some parts of the contract... so they should be able to ignore them. I have a neighbor that has a 6 foot lawn ornament in their front yard. I guess... based on some comments, I should just let things go. Even though I don't have any lawn ornaments in my front lawn because I know it's against the rules. And I think the 6 ft. lawn ornament is hideous. But I guess I should just suck it up...

6' tall lawn ornament? Why is this neighbor pushing the envelope that far? You can't be serious. I have never reported any infraction I have seen and I am opposed to all those little white crosses. Having said that......I would report a 6' lawn ornament in a heartbeat! I would not put up with that. Sorry.

Just wondering.... is it a dinosaur?

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by perrjojo

I agree with you 100%. The reason the complaint system is complaint driven is because having someone driving around and reporting every violation would be expensive. As large as TV is it would take a large department to deal with all of the violations and we would pay for this via increase amenity fees. I lived in a neighborhood of only 1300 homes and the expense of having someone deal with violations was costly.

Obviously it's not expensive at all, if you have so many willing and eager volunteers already doing it for free. Make them official Volunteer Compliance Officers, tell them it's now their actual responsibility, they get coffee and donuts when they turn their report in at the end of their shift, and problem solved.

Of course that means everyone will know who they are. But if they are sincere in their need to ensure that the entirety of the Villages is in compliance with each area's respective deed restrictions, they should have no problem identifying themselves. They could even get fancy hats and a special marker on their golf cart to indicate that they're "on duty."

[champion6]

Originally Posted by Jazuela

Obviously it's not expensive at all, if you have so many willing and eager volunteers already doing it for free. Make them official Volunteer Compliance Officers, tell them it's now their actual responsibility, they get coffee and donuts when they turn their report in at the end of their shift, and problem solved.

Of course that means everyone will know who they are. But if they are sincere in their need to ensure that the entirety of the Villages is in compliance with each area's respective deed restrictions, they should have no problem identifying themselves. They could even get fancy hats and a special marker on their golf cart to indicate that they're "on duty."

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