[The Shadow]

Originally Posted by Bryan

Talk Host is absolutely correct - there is no "law" against solicitation in TV. Someone said something about rules but rules are not enforceable by law enforcement. Those that say "call Community Watch" are also correct. Although they can't "do" anything about the solicitors, just their presence has a deterrent effect. And they will (usually) come and watch the solicitors and follow them around. If they don't, call Chief Tucker, Village Public Safety, and let him know his CW people aren't doing their jobs.

On a slightly different but related subject, sales persons who go door-to-door do have to be licensed by the state of Florida (but not politicians, religious or charitable organizations, people pushing ideas but not selling products or services). You can and should ask to see their state solicitation license. If they won't show you one, or don't have one, that is a violation of Florida law and you can call local law enforcement to report it and ask them to send an officer/deputy.

Bryan,
I am not sure but I think that if on your property it is posted “Private Property No Trespassing” a trespasser can be charged with trespassing. What are your thoughts on that?

[bkcunningham1]

Originally Posted by The Shadow

Bryan,
I am not sure but I think that if on your property it is posted “Private Property No Trespassing” a trespasser can be charged with trespassing. What are your thoughts on that?

In 2002, the US Supreme Court ruled in a case involving the Jehovah Witnesses. It isn't the first ruling the Supremes have made in favor of freedom of speech for the Jehovah Witnesses.


http://www.watchtowerinformationserv...e-court-rules/

[The Shadow]

Originally Posted by bkcunningham1

In 2002, the US Supreme Court ruled in a case involving the Jehovah Witnesses. It isn't the first ruling the Supremes have made in favor of freedom of speech for the Jehovah Witnesses.


http://www.watchtowerinformationserv...e-court-rules/

Thanks for posting that. I do not agree with the ruling but it is interesting and educational.

[graciegirl]

Shadow? I don't think we are allowed to have signs. We can't put a for sale sign up in our neck of the woods.

[JenAjd]

Amen Graciegirl.....what you say is absolutely true! I generally just tell the JW's and Mormons the same thing---that I'm a Christian and have the Truth and I think we'll have to agree to disagree!! I've learned that I can't debate such folks and most will politely leave. Eventually I think (at least up north) they will tag your house (in some way) and not bother anymore. OR you can just NOT answer the door!

[The Shadow]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Shadow? I don't think we are allowed to have signs. We can't put a for sale sign up in our neck of the woods.

You win another cookie, I was waiting to see who would say that and I would reply…

I think this is a valid example, TV does not allow solar water heater panels on the roof, the government gives you a cash incentive to have solar panels. So by law you can have solar panels.

In my thinking out of the box, I come to the conclusion that “Private Property No Trespassing” is not a sign that would/could be regulated by TV no sign rule. I see it not as a sign but a statement of my rights and a desire to protect my security and a warning that if you trespass I will take legal action like call the police and report you are trespassing.

To support my thinking
http://www.ehow.com/list_6751186_flo...sing-laws.html

Under Florida Statute 588.10, a property owner does have the responsibility of providing notice with "No Trespassing" signs SNIP…….

In the state of Florida, there are extremely harsh penalties for individuals who trespass on private property with a firearm in their possession. While most forms of trespassing are considered misdemeanors, any person who gets caught trespassing with a firearm is committing a felony. SNIP……

Apparently that no sign rule does not apply to putting signs in the windows of CYV saying “For Rent”.

[graciegirl]

[quote:
Under Florida Statute 588.10, a property owner does have the responsibility of providing notice with "No Trespassing" signs SNIP…….

In the state of Florida, there are extremely harsh penalties for individuals who trespass on private property with a firearm in their possession. While most forms of trespassing are considered misdemeanors, any person who gets caught trespassing with a firearm is committing a felony. SNIP……
quote=The Shadow;303454]You win another cookie, I was waiting to see who would say that and I would reply…

I think this is a valid example, TV does not allow solar water heater panels on the roof, the government gives you a cash incentive to have solar panels. So by law you can have solar panels.

In my thinking out of the box, I come to the conclusion that “Private Property No Trespassing” is not a sign that would/could be regulated by TV no sign rule. I see it not as a sign but a statement of my rights and a desire to protect my security and a warning that if you trespass I will take legal action like call the police and report you are trespassing.

To support my thinking
http://www.ehow.com/list_6751186_flo...sing-laws.html



Apparently that no sign rule does not apply to putting signs in the windows of CYV saying “For Rent”.[/quote]

Whoa now Shadow. I have been called on by a goodly number of JW over the years but not a one of them was carrying a firearm.

I kinda think those signs that say "NO Trespassing" and "MY dog is gonna tear your head off" are not friendly....Just my take.

But thank you kindly for the cookie. Next time could you get oatmeal raisin? They're my fave.

[Talk Host]

Do you all know that you are not permitted to have those warning signs that say, "Alarmed security system." You can have a decal in the window, but not the lollipop notices in your yard or around your bushes.

[AnonChick]

If you have a screen door in front of the main door, what's to prevent you from putting up a little sign -on- the inside door saying "no trespassing/soliciting?" I can understand not wanting to see a sign on the lawn, or in easy view of anyone strolling past the property. But if they're up close and personal enough to ring the doorbell, they're up close and personal enough to read a small sign affixed to the door itself.

[The Shadow]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Whoa now Shadow. I have been called on by a goodly number of JW over the years but not a one of them was carrying a firearm.

I kinda think those signs that say "NO Trespassing" and "MY dog is gonna tear your head off" are not friendly....Just my take.

But thank you kindly for the cookie. Next time could you get oatmeal raisin? They're my fave.

You are not with me girl. The Shadow did not say JW one time. It was more like all persons who trespass, water softener salesman, life insurance salesman or the husband of my girl friend who may be packin heat.

In my book you enter my property if you are a friend, blood, have an invitation or an appointment. Others are infringing on my quality of life punishable by police action.

“I kinda think those signs that say "NO Trespassing" and "MY dog is gonna tear your head off" are not friendly”

I kinda think those signs that say "NO Trespassing" are no more unfriendly than “No Right Turn on Red”, “No Parking”, unfriendly to me is “No Fishing”, “Do Not Feed the XXX”.

The question comes to mind, what did the signs say on the fence surrounding the Buffalo?

[graciegirl]

Marking Shadow off list of people to drop in on.

[Bogie Shooter]

This seems like a big to do over nothing. Been here 8 years and can count on one hand the number of solicitors that have come to the door.
Just how many have been to your door that you now need "No Trespassing" signs?

[dillywho]

Originally Posted by The Shadow

I think this is a valid example, TV does not allow solar water heater panels on the roof, the government gives you a cash incentive to have solar panels. So by law you can have solar panels.

What are those panel thingys on some of the rooftops if they're not solar panels? I thought that was what they were. Help!

[The Shadow]

Originally Posted by dillywho

What are those panel thingys on some of the rooftops if they're not solar panels? I thought that was what they were. Help!

TV rules were trumped by state and or federal rules so you have panels.

[dillywho]

Thanks, Shadow...that 'splains it.