[asianthree]

Originally Posted by vintageogauge

Fact. A Lantana is a 3 bed home. When they were building up LS white garage doors were standard and to have them match the color of the house was an extra, at the same time they were supplying all of the homes with white appliances and many or most of them from that era still have them, you cold not get a large quartz island, stainless has not be the norm in TV for the last 25/30 years. There were no veranda homes, there were no designers with fully fenced in yards, no designers with 10 foot walls, no designer models with walk in pantries, homes did not come with radiant barriers, on demand hot water, etc., etc., I'm not talking about homes that were built a year or two before crossing 44 as they started to improve them at that point while getting ready to build on the other side.

Actually 10’ walls were in the main body of homes built in 2009, bedrooms 10’ with tray or slope ceiling.homes. You also had what would be called premier homes inSS area that had more perks, and great architecture. I actually like the older 10’ ceilings compared to todays 10’ walls. The loss of the pony counters are a big plus

[Randall55]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Extending a wall make a kitchen bigger?

Excuse me while I try to noodle that thru... To the rest of the world, a bigger room means more square footage...

Retired contractor here. The older homes do not have open kitchens. To open the kitchen in the newer models a wall was removed. Standard construction practice. Open floor plans have no dividing walls. No dividing wall less cabinets as another poster stated. And yes, it is still the same floor plan.

[Randall55]

Originally Posted by vintageogauge

You need to start going to some open houses down south. There are lots of new floor plans and a lot of the old style plans of the north are no longer available, you won't find a gardenia with pillars in the middle of the house any longer, and there are now at least five 4 bedroom designer plans available, not to mention verandas and fenced in yards. There are many villa floor plans that were never built north of 44. The quality of the material being used such as windows and doors, roofs and floors along with HVAC and on demand hot water was not available in the old homes. Modern kitchens with large islands and decorator wall mounted exhaust fans, walk in pantries, and no more white kitchen appliances such as was used north, I can go on and on but you really have to see for yourself. It's also rare that you will see a white garage door on a designer home down south.

I have looked at the homes. Verandas are the same designer homes with fences around them. Adding or subtracting features does not change the fact that it is the same floor plan. Updating appliances does not change a floor plan. Four bedroom homes can be found in the North. ( the same floorplans as the ones in the south). Perhaps some of you are getting confused because they change the names of the models.

[Randall55]

Originally Posted by asianthree

Actually 10’ walls were in the main body of homes built in 2009, bedrooms 10’ with tray or slope ceiling.homes. You also had what would be called premier homes inSS area that had more perks, and great architecture. I actually like the older 10’ ceilings compared to todays 10’ walls. The loss of the pony counters are a big plus

Ten foot ceilings is a change in the trusses. A height of a ceiling does not change the floorplan. In fact, if you choose to customize your home, changing the height of the ceilings is an option available to you. Of course, this option has an additional cost.

[Randall55]

Originally Posted by vintageogauge

Fact. A Lantana is a 3 bed home. When they were building up LS white garage doors were standard and to have them match the color of the house was an extra, at the same time they were supplying all of the homes with white appliances and many or most of them from that era still have them, you cold not get a large quartz island, stainless has not be the norm in TV for the last 25/30 years. There were no veranda homes, there were no designers with fully fenced in yards, no designers with 10 foot walls, no designer models with walk in pantries, homes did not come with radiant barriers, on demand hot water, etc., etc., I'm not talking about homes that were built a year or two before crossing 44 as they started to improve them at that point while getting ready to build on the other side.

Updating a home to on demand hot water costs a few hundred dollars, and an easy fix. Some people like white garage doors because they help keep the garage cooler. Most everything you discussed are OPTIONS. Walk in pantries were made available because removing the walls to achieve an open floor plan resulted in fewer cabinets. Add the word luxurious in front of vinyl plank, you still have vinyl flooring.

[asianthree]

Originally Posted by Randall55

Ten foot ceilings is a change in the trusses. A height of a ceiling does not change the floorplan. In fact, if you choose to customize your home, changing the height of the ceilings is an option available to you. Of course, this option has an additional cost.

Have you built in TV, you chose the floor plan if you want 10’ ceilings that plan must have 10’ ceilings, you can’t change height, you can’t move interior walls, no adding rooms, no side bump. No adding or moving outlets, lights, fans. You are allowed to stretch front and rear, 4’.

You haven’t had the ability to customize any home for almost 2 years. Out of the hundreds of items in Street of dreams ( or disappointment) 3 item in each category was available. Example 62 shower fixtures 3 available.. custom home builds will probably never return.

If you want options you speak of you need to look elsewhere, developer doesn’t change their plans for anyone

[Randall55]

Originally Posted by asianthree

Have you built in TV, you chose the floor plan if you want 10’ ceilings that plan must have 10’ ceilings, you can’t change height, you can’t move interior walls, no adding rooms, no side bump. No adding or moving outlets, lights, fans. You are allowed to stretch front and rear, 4’.

You haven’t had the ability to customize any home for almost 2 years. Out of the hundreds of items in Street of dreams ( or disappointment) 3 item in each category was available. Example 62 shower fixtures 3 available.. custom home builds will probably never return.

I did customize my home. Picked a lot, chose a floor plan, then built to my specifications, as my lot allowed. As long as what you are asking for is doable, and fits the lot you have chosen, expanding rooms and raising ceilings is no problem. Of course, the cost is more. You can have walls removed but adding walls is a different story. Perhaps the lot you chose was not large enough to do what you wanted. If all you could do was add 4 feet to front and rear, you bought a deep lot not a wide lot. However, I did this more than 2 years ago, things may have changed or there are no wide lots available at this time.

[Kenswing]

Originally Posted by Randall55

I did customize my home. Picked a lot, chose a floor plan, then built to my specifications, as my lot allowed. As long as what you are asking for is doable, and fits the lot you have chosen, expanding rooms and raising ceilings is no problem. Of course, the cost is more. You can have walls removed but adding walls is a different story. Perhaps the lot you chose was not large enough to do what you wanted. If all you could do was add 4 feet to front and rear, you bought a deep lot not a wide lot.

Maybe when you built. That’s no longer the case. We built in St. Catherine. We were one of it not the last village that could truly customize.

[Randall55]

Originally Posted by Kenswing

Maybe when you built. That’s no longer the case. We built in St. Catherine. We were one of it not the last village that could truly customize.

Yes. I did build my home more than 2 years ago. Havent checked on the new guidelines since. Perhaps there are no wide lots available at this time. This may or may not change in the future. Obviously, You can only build what will fit on the lot. Interesting though, I have seen some spec homes with one side of the home stretched 3 feet enlarging the bedrooms and living area.

[asianthree]

Originally Posted by Randall55

I did customize my home. Picked a lot, chose a floor plan, then built to my specifications, as my lot allowed. As long as what you are asking for is doable, and fits the lot you have chosen, expanding rooms and raising ceilings is no problem. Of course, the cost is more. You can have walls removed but adding walls is a different story. Perhaps the lot you chose was not large enough to do what you wanted. If all you could do was add 4 feet to front and rear, you bought a deep lot not a wide lot.

We had 12’ to move side walls that wasn’t allowed, front and back stretch only. period.everything is After market only, in fact we have 17 items on our list that had to be done after market. Only 2 options for pool, no custom options, no change in shape.

yes we had more room for rear and side. But 4’ was it, No removing or moving walls. We have been in TV since “07”. This is our 4th house. Our first and only design team meeting for this house was Labor day 2022. Prior to that date, you could add outlets, fixtures, move interior walls, add rooms. Stretch anywhere you wanted, move door enlarge closets. That is no longer the case. So we ended up with just under 2800sf, that we will be adding that 12’ Aftermarket. We also chose to add pool aftermarket to build the design we wanted.

[Kenswing]

Originally Posted by Randall55

Yes. I did build my home more than 2 years ago. Havent checked on the new guidelines since. Perhaps there are no wide lots available at this time. This may or may not change in the future. Obviously, You can only build what will fit on the lot. Interesting though, I have seen some spec homes with one side of the home stretched 3 feet enlarging the bedrooms and living area.

It has nothing to do with lot size. We recently had friends go through design. They couldn’t even add extra electrical outlets. They are even limiting options for pools.

[Randall55]

Originally Posted by asianthree

We had 12’ to move side walls that wasn’t allowed, front and back stretch only. period.everything is After market only, in fact we have 17 items on our list that had to be done after market. Only 2 options for pool, no custom options, no change in shape.

yes we had more room for rear and side. But 4’ was it, No removing or moving walls. We have been in TV since “07”. This is our 4th house. Our first and only design team meeting for this house was Labor day 2022. Prior to that date, you could add outlets, fixtures, move interior walls, add rooms. Stretch anywhere you wanted, move door enlarge closets. That is no longer the case. So we ended up with just under 2800sf, that we will be adding that 12’ Aftermarket. We also choose to add pool aftermarket to build the design we wanted

Thanks for the update. Sounds like things have changed and not for the better.

[asianthree]

Originally Posted by Randall55

Thanks for the update. Sounds like things have changed and not for the better.

Makes you wonder if Unit 84 will be allowed to build what used to be custom homes. At the cost of their bond one would hope some disappointment will be lifted, and a pools can be truly custom with out a sun shelf

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by asianthree

Makes you wonder if Unit 84 will be allowed to build what used to be custom homes. At the cost of their bond one would hope some disappointment will be lifted

Cannot believe how expensive their bond will be.

[asianthree]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

Cannot believe how expensive their bond will be.

It will be nice to have a premier new village, but makes you wonder if you can’t customize home anymore, why pay for huge premium lots, enormous bond. With so few lots one wonders how many will be spec homes and how many custom “ish” homes. Plus it’s is out in left or right field for now