[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

Dam Doc, I hope you spend as much time with your patients as you do replying to some of the threads on TOTV?

So personal insults are your go to response when you have no rational response?

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by vintageogauge

Fact. A Lantana is a 3 bed home. When they were building up LS white garage doors were standard and to have them match the color of the house was an extra, at the same time they were supplying all of the homes with white appliances and many or most of them from that era still have them, you cold not get a large quartz island, stainless has not be the norm in TV for the last 25/30 years. There were no veranda homes, there were no designers with fully fenced in yards, no designers with 10 foot walls, no designer models with walk in pantries, homes did not come with radiant barriers, on demand hot water, etc., etc., I'm not talking about homes that were built a year or two before crossing 44 as they started to improve them at that point while getting ready to build on the other side.

Sorry, I meant "Lily", not Lantana... My bad...

Yes, quartz was not available, but granite was.

We looked at homes all thru the area south of 466A and north of 44 (certainly not built "a year or two before crossing 44), as that was where we wanted to live...

We did not see a single home with white appliances. We did see some stretched homes with "walk in pantries" and M-in-L suites...

We weren't interested in Veranda homes, nor fenced in yards, so I cannot comment on those...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Randall55

Retired contractor here. The older homes do not have open kitchens. To open the kitchen in the newer models a wall was removed. Standard construction practice. Open floor plans have no dividing walls. No dividing wall less cabinets as another poster stated. And yes, it is still the same floor plan.

Our friend has a Bridgeport model.

There is a full wall separating part of the kitchen from the living room.

The newer Bridgeports had the top half of that wall removed, giving a better sight line from the kitchen into the living room area. But the kitchen remained exactly the same size...

Their only regret was not removing that part of the wall (which was an option at the time...)

But they were able to stretch their home in other areas, being able to add a huge walk in pantry that is accessible from the house and the garage (it's air conditioned)...

[Randall55]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

Cannot believe how expensive their bond will be.

A bond price is determined by the amount of homes built in that area. I believe I read there will only be 121 homes in section 84. The expense of developing the land will be divided by those 121 homeowners. When you purchase a home, always look at the bond price. An identical home in another area may have a significantly lower bond.

[Randall55]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Our friend has a Bridgeport model.

There is a full wall separating part of the kitchen from the living room.

The newer Bridgeports had the top half of that wall removed, giving a better sight line from the kitchen into the living room area. But the kitchen remained exactly the same size...

Their only regret was not removing that part of the wall (which was an option at the time...)

But they were able to stretch their home in other areas, being able to add a huge walk in pantry that is accessible from the house and the garage (it's air conditioned)...

Correct. An older model will have a wall separating the living area and kitchen. In the newer models, the wall was removed to create an open concept. I believe you are the only one who stated the square footage would change. No wall, no place to hang upper cabinets. The word bigger by another poster was explained. She meant the older models have more cabinets not more space.

Open concept living has its drawbacks just like homes with sectioned off rooms. In the Villages, these homes happen to be the same floor plans.There really is no "mine is better than yours." Unless you question someone's interior design taste.Buy what makes you happy!

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Randall55

Correct. An older model will have a wall separating the living area and kitchen. I believe you are the only one who stated square footage would change. No wall, no place to hang upper cabinets. The word bigger by another poster was explained. She meant more cabinets not more space.

Then the other poster should have stated "more cabinets" and not said "bigger"... Words have meaning...

[asianthree]

Originally Posted by Randall55

A bond price is determined by the amount of homes built in that area. I believe I read there will only be 121 homes in section 84. The expense of developing the land will be divided by those 121 homeowners. When you purchase a home, always look at the bond price. An identical home in another area may have a significantly lower bond.

Many on this site have owned here for more than 10-20 years, and beyond. Usually with more than one home in TV, and “The Bond” is what is always asked when buying a spec, building on a lot, or “What is the balance” of the bond on a preowned. Some of historic side didn’t have a bond, and get a few perks free, that others pay for.

Bond question is only missed if new perspective buyer didn’t research or topic of bond discussion wasn’t given to them, which while very rare, has happened.

In 2007 bond on a new home we looked at was $12,000. 2010 our bond was $15,000. 2012 our bond was $18,000. 2014, was preowned with $13,000 left. 2022 our bond is $24,000. Some choose to pay bond off immediately, while others like us don’t since there could be another new #5 home right around the corner. So far have met one person who has bought 12 homes, in TV.

While Unit 84 is unique that it is tucked away, with 121 sites, that looks to be a secluded area, the bond will be the highest so far for new development. No one knows if only Premier homes only will be built there, but many guess with the lot premium, one would hope homes will be in that category.

Then again when we were trying for a lot in Richmond, some of the largest custom most expensive build lots, that we didn’t get, ended up with much smaller models than we expected for the size of the lot.

So Unit 84, could end up with a great view, on a prime lot, with an average home, and a really large bond. Only time will tell, which in TV, will really be just a few months down the road. I truly hope the terminology of Custom home will be brought back for Unit 84.

[Altavia]

Originally Posted by Randall55

A bond price is determined by the amount of homes built in that area. I believe I read there will only be 121 homes in section 84. The expense of developing the land will be divided by those 121 homeowners. When you purchase a home, always look at the bond price.

An identical home in another area may have a significantly lower bond.

But probably a less desirable location. Premium lots appreciate at a higher rate so you recover the difference anyway.

Don't let the trail wag the dog.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by asianthree

Actually 10’ walls were in the main body of homes built in 2009, bedrooms 10’ with tray or slope ceiling.homes. You also had what would be called premier homes inSS area that had more perks, and great architecture. I actually like the older 10’ ceilings compared to todays 10’ walls. The loss of the pony counters are a big plus

I looked up "pony counters' and found out they are the bi-level counters. I much prefer the bi-level counter on my kitchen island. I have many reasons and would never want a home with one level counter.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Randall55

Retired contractor here. The older homes do not have open kitchens. To open the kitchen in the newer models a wall was removed. Standard construction practice. Open floor plans have no dividing walls. No dividing wall less cabinets as another poster stated. And yes, it is still the same floor plan.

I have an older designer home, built in 2007, and my kitchen is completely open to the living and dining rooms. The home was built this way. This is one reason I much prefer the bi-level counter on the island as it hides the kitchen "mess" from the other rooms it over looks. I also like the outlets handy for small appliances which have very short cords for safety. Those are just two reasons I like the bi-level counters. There are plenty more but I won't go into that.

[Randall55]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

I looked up "pony counters' and found out they are the bi-level counters. I much prefer the bi-level counter on my kitchen island. I have many reasons and would never want a home with one level counter.

Personally, I find the giant slab islands a pain. I prefer pony counters, as well. You have space to clean the dishes while talking to your guests who are seated comfortably at the counter. The kitchen always looks tidy, and there is a little more room to maneuver.

[VApeople]

We have been in our house for 7 years and love our bi-level counters. I have seen models that have one-level counters and the kitchens have much less open space to move around.

[Nana2Teddy]

Originally Posted by asianthree

Many on this site have owned here for more than 10-20 years, and beyond. Usually with more than one home in TV, and “The Bond” is what is always asked when buying a spec, building on a lot, or “What is the balance” of the bond on a preowned. Some of historic side didn’t have a bond, and get a few perks free, that others pay for.

Bond question is only missed if new perspective buyer didn’t research or topic of bond discussion wasn’t given to them, which while very rare, has happened.

In 2007 bond on a new home we looked at was $12,000. 2010 our bond was $15,000. 2012 our bond was $18,000. 2014, was preowned with $13,000 left. 2022 our bond is $24,000. Some choose to pay bond off immediately, while others like us don’t since there could be another new #5 home right around the corner. So far have met one person who has bought 12 homes, in TV.

While Unit 84 is unique that it is tucked away, with 121 sites, that looks to be a secluded area, the bond will be the highest so far for new development. No one knows if only Premier homes only will be built there, but many guess with the lot premium, one would hope homes will be in that category.

Then again when we were trying for a lot in Richmond, some of the largest custom most expensive build lots, that we didn’t get, ended up with much smaller models than we expected for the size of the lot.

So Unit 84, could end up with a great view, on a prime lot, with an average home, and a really large bond. Only time will tell, which in TV, will really be just a few months down the road. I truly hope the terminology of Custom home will be brought back for Unit 84.

Wow! Your bond is so small compared to our 2022 veranda home in DeLuna. Is that because you bought a lot and did a custom build, and the bond is only on the lot, not the home? Our bond is $37K on a spec home.

[Randall55]

Originally Posted by Nana2Teddy

Wow! Your bond is so small compared to our 2022 veranda home in DeLuna. Is that because you bought a lot and did a custom build, and the bond is only on the lot, not the home? Our bond is $37K on a spec home.

Bonds have gone up throughout the years because prices to develop land which includes adding roads and bringing in utilities have significantly increased. A bond price is determined by how many homes are built on a parcel of land. The entire price of developing that parcel is divided equally among the homeowners. More homes, lesser bond price. Fewer homes on a parcel, greater bond price. It also depends on how the land was developed. For example, water retention ponds, bridges, and golf courses cost more to develop. A bond has nothing to do with a price of the home.

When purchasing a home consider the bond. As many people who own homes in the northern area have stated, the bonds are significantly smaller or have been paid in the area they live. However, if paying an average of a few hundred dollars extra a month doesn't bother you, then no sense in worrying.

[Kelevision]

I’m envious of those who bought in Lake Denham. They can get to Orlando in 45 min.