[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Djembe dude

Actually a person has to be 14 years old to drive in the villages, check the villages rules on this. I personally don't think anyone under 18 should be allowed to drive a cart.

14 years old is a state law..........not a villages rule.

[ROCKETMAN]

Everything you say is for public roads not paths as far as enforcing speed limits. I talked to 3 different deputies and they all said the same thing as far as enforcing speed limits on paths. No can do!!!!

[capecodbob]

I must be missing something here. Done a couple thousand miles on the MM paths and I see NO NEED for q-tips hiding in the bushes with radar guns or the local revenue boys wasting their time on golf carts in TV. Sure there are a few obnoxious ones in golf carts but they are very rare. And they're usually gone in a week or two.

[yabbadu]

What a thought..Seniors with Radar guns giving citations.

[rubicon]

Originally Posted by Carl in Tampa

Florida Statute 316.640

(2) COUNTIES.�
(a) The sheriff�s office of each of the several counties of this state shall enforce all of the traffic laws of this state on all the streets and highways thereof and elsewhere throughout the county wherever the public has the right to travel by motor vehicle. In addition, the sheriff�s office may be required by the county to enforce the traffic laws of this state on any private or limited access road or roads over which the county has jurisdiction pursuant to a written agreement entered into under s. 316.006(3)(b).

This Statute like all many is written to anticipate the exception so as to allow the police the power to act. A golf cart vis a vis an LSV cannot exceed 19.6 mph. You can bet if a golf cart strikes a pedestrian on the golf cart path the police will investigate for cause including speed. Even if they did not with or without insurance the pedestrian and/or family would file a legal action.

To my way of thinking it doesn't matter what authority the police have because I am not going to intentionally do anything that is consider criminal be a minor violation or a felony.

The behavior of some golf cart drivers on cart paths is plain reckless and it is because they are feckless

[twinklesweep]

Originally Posted by tommy steam

What would that limit be? Let's say its 20 , could you get a ticket if you were going 22. Thank you.

What�s wrong with this picture? We have 35 posts based on the OP which makes reference to the speed limit of golf carts being 20 mph, so �can�t we go 22 and not be subject to ticketing?�

Simply AND BOLDLY put, THE SPEED LIMIT FOR A GOLF CART IS 20 MPH. Anything beyond this is moot. Should there be any discussion from that point on?

This reminds me of my writing about the person complaining about getting a ticket in a school zone with the lights flashing because of being from out-of-state, without an iota of thought that it was that individual who chose to fly through the school zone.

Or the people who have said that Buena Vista Blvd �looks like� it was designed for speeds higher than 35 mph and so choose to drive faster. When ticketed, I supposed we�ll hear that �it�s the road�s fault!�

What part of �the speed limit for a golf cart is 20 mph� is incomprehensible?

[NJblue]

Simply AND BOLDLY put, THE SPEED LIMIT FOR A GOLF CART IS 20 MPH. Anything beyond this is moot. Should there be any discussion from that point on?

But, the OP only asked about the speed limit on the multi-modal paths. He didn't ask about the speed limit for golf carts. Since, as has been pointed out, other forms of vehicles use the multi-modal paths than golf carts, it is a valid question. I think it has been pointed out multiple times, however, that there is no speed limit per se on the multi-modal paths.

[Carl in Tampa]

Originally Posted by NJblue

But, the OP only asked about the speed limit on the multi-modal paths. He didn't ask about the speed limit for golf carts. Since, as has been pointed out, other forms of vehicles use the multi-modal paths than golf carts, it is a valid question. I think it has been pointed out multiple times, however, that there is no speed limit per se on the multi-modal paths.

Well, no...........

If you insist on what was literally said, that the OP did not ask about the speed limit for golf carts, then you must accept that he did not ask about the speed limit on multi-modal paths.

Look at the original post again, including the title. The question was about GOLF CART PATHS.

"Speed limit on the golf cart paths
What would that limit be? Let's say its 20 , could you get a ticket if you were going 22. Thank you."

And, since only golf carts are authorized to use the golf cart paths, for a fee, the discussion should be limited to golf carts.

This confusion in terms is probably the source of much of the confusion and misunderstanding that exists on this thread.

But the fact remains that by definition in state law it is illegal to go more than 20 mph in a golf cart ANYWHERE.

[Carl in Tampa]

Originally Posted by twinklesweep

Simply AND BOLDLY put, THE SPEED LIMIT FOR A GOLF CART IS 20 MPH. Anything beyond this is moot. Should there be any discussion from that point on?

What part of �the speed limit for a golf cart is 20 mph� is incomprehensible?

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by twinklesweep

What’s wrong with this picture? We have 35 posts based on the OP which makes reference to the speed limit of golf carts being 20 mph, so “can’t we go 22 and not be subject to ticketing?”

Simply AND BOLDLY put, THE SPEED LIMIT FOR A GOLF CART IS 20 MPH. Anything beyond this is moot. Should there be any discussion from that point on?

This reminds me of my writing about the person complaining about getting a ticket in a school zone with the lights flashing because of being from out-of-state, without an iota of thought that it was that individual who chose to fly through the school zone.

Or the people who have said that Buena Vista Blvd “looks like” it was designed for speeds higher than 35 mph and so choose to drive faster. When ticketed, I supposed we’ll hear that “it’s the road’s fault!”

What part of “the speed limit for a golf cart is 20 mph” is incomprehensible?

Welll said. Now I have to look up what feckless means on Rubicon's post. I don't think it is anything I want to be.

[Hancle704]

Originally Posted by Carl in Tampa

320.01 Definitions, general.�As used in
(22) �Golf cart� means a motor vehicle that is designed and manufactured for operation on a golf course for sporting or recreational purposes and that is not capable of exceeding speeds of 20 miles per hour.

So if they catch you doing over 20 MPH you are no longer operating a golf cart, but an unregistered vehicle and the offense is not speeding.

[redwitch]

It sounds like an argument over semantics -- if you mean the paths that run beside but are not part of the road, then local law enforcement has no jurisdiction (except when you get off the path to cross a street); if you mean the paths inside the golf courses, again, no jurisdiction; if you mean the paths that are on the street and separated by a solid white line, then, yes, you could be ticketed for going 22 MPH but probably wouldn't. Go 25 plus and you just might get that very expensive ticket.

[rubicon]

followed the comments from my last posts.

1. Actually the OP basically asked two or three questions depending how you view it : a) Is there a speed limit on the cart paths? b) If you go above 20mph can you get a ticket The questions invited many legitimate inquiries which members addressed.

Technically there are three paths that should clarified because each may have influence on the answers members shared with the OP and others.

The designated lanes on streets such as Baily Trail are termed diamond lanes
The lanes that run parallel to streets such as Buena Vista are multi-modal lanes.
The lanes that run on a golf course re termed golf cart paths.

However generally people refer to the multi-modal lanes as the golf cart paths because most people understand what they mean. I broke it down for the anal among us

[NJblue]

Originally Posted by Carl in Tampa

Well, no...........

If you insist on what was literally said, that the OP did not ask about the speed limit for golf carts, then you must accept that he did not ask about the speed limit on multi-modal paths.

Look at the original post again, including the title. The question was about GOLF CART PATHS.

"Speed limit on the golf cart paths
What would that limit be? Let's say its 20 , could you get a ticket if you were going 22. Thank you."

And, since only golf carts are authorized to use the golf cart paths, for a fee, the discussion should be limited to golf carts.

This confusion in terms is probably the source of much of the confusion and misunderstanding that exists on this thread.

But the fact remains that by definition in state law it is illegal to go more than 20 mph in a golf cart ANYWHERE.

Perhaps you are new to TV, but you are wrong in stating that only golf carts are authorized to use golf cart paths. Whether they are the "diamond lanes", multi-modal paths or actual golf cart paths on a golf course, LSVs are allowed on all three. Hence, one can not declare that there is a speed limit of 20 on them just because one type of vehicle that uses them is restricted to 20 MPH.

[Carl in Tampa]

Originally Posted by rubicon

followed the comments from my last posts.

1. Actually the OP basically asked two or three questions depending how you view it : a) Is there a speed limit on the cart paths? b) If you go above 20mph can you get a ticket The questions invited many legitimate inquiries which members addressed.

Technically there are three paths that should clarified because each may have influence on the answers members shared with the OP and others.

The designated lanes on streets such as Baily Trail are termed diamond lanes
The lanes that run parallel to streets such as Buena Vista are multi-modal lanes.
The lanes that run on a golf course re termed golf cart paths.

However generally people refer to the multi-modal lanes as the golf cart paths because most people understand what they mean. I broke it down for the anal among us

Nah, you changed your answer when it was pointed out that the OP was about golf cart paths, not multi-modal as you had erroneously stated.

However, let's find an area of agreement. I agree that virtually everyone calls the multi-modal paths "golf cart paths." That is what has added much confusion to this discussion. Language can be slippery, particularly since most people are imprecise in what they say. Apparently in your view the precise are "anal."

The fact remains that no matter where you are, if you have modified your golf cart so it can exceed 20 mph and are caught driving over 20 mph you can be cited.

On the other hand, for 2 mph over 20 seems to be an unlikely charge.