[outlaw]

Originally Posted by MDLNB

Good one. Although, I value my Harley, so I do stop.

That's a good enough reason.

[emb2458]

Really! 10 mph. I would have to keep my foot on the brake to go 10 mph. Going less than 20 mph creates a back up of traffic on main roads in The Villages. All the main high traffic roads should be 25 mph - 30 mph where there is two lanes being used.

[MDLNB]

Originally Posted by emb2458

Really! 10 mph. I would have to keep my foot on the brake to go 10 mph. Going less than 20 mph creates a back up of traffic on main roads in The Villages. All the main high traffic roads should be 25 mph - 30 mph where there is two lanes being used.

The way some of you drive, 10mph is likely too fast and cause you to lose control..ha,ha. 10mph is usually for residential areas, where folks walk their dogs and what not.

Originally Posted by par

Give everyone a break and move to Atlanta. Seem's like your a busy body. Mind your own business, pull over and don't be road hog! More important issues to bitch about like the high extortion fee called a BOND and the amenity fee that will raise after build out.

Extortion is a criminal offense of obtaining money, property or services from a person, entity, or institution through coercion so how can it be extortion? Did you not know about the amenity fee or bond before signing the documents to live in The Villages? Or do you not live here and are just trolling?

[Kgcetm]

Fortunately most traffic in all villages obey the traffic rules.

[kalisak]

People would be crazy to stand in the street and talk on Buena Vista or Morse, and probably would get a ticket if they did for jaywalking or obstructing traffic. Not sure how its legal, then, on a neighborhood street. Should be legal, but I've never seen any signs or read it anywhere. I'm sure carts and bicylists hit pedestrians occasionally in TV, but we don't see it in the paper. Do moving pedestrians have right of way over standing/idle pedestrians? Is there a difference (whether they are moving) if a vehicle hits them?

[Jim Stickel]

All Villa neighborhoods are posted at 10mph...Kimley-Horn and the District you live in will show you the info....does it matter? - Nope sometimes the Villages is not the world's friendliest hometown

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by outlaw

Do bicyclists have to obey those speed limits? They don't have to stop at stop signs, unless there are cars coming.

Do you have any idea how difficult it is to go 20 mph on a bicycle?

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

Do you have any idea how difficult it is to go 20 mph on a bicycle?

There are many roads in TV where the speed limit is 10 or 15 mph.

[biker1]

I think it is probably more accurate to say that most people drive in a fairly safe manner even if they do technically violate a bunch of traffic rules. The biggest issue I see is some confusion in the roundabouts.

Originally Posted by Kgcetm

Fortunately most traffic in all villages obey the traffic rules.

[tomwed]

Here's an Orlando crime map used to make a point. http://www.orlandosentinel2.com/data/crime/

I don't think we need a crime map. But it would be helpful to have a traffic accident map for cars, carts, bikes and pedestrians that included multi model paths.

Frequently questions come up about safety. The stripes are a good example. With an accident map you could see where the dangerous areas are and maybe stripe or add those plastic center lane speed bumps there first and see if there is an improvement.

I think many of the threads are not approached scientifically like we learned in school.
The Scientific Method
Ask a Question
Do Background Research
Construct a Hypothesis
Test Your Hypothesis by Doing an Experiment
Analyze Your Data and Draw a Conclusion
Communicate Your Results

I think we use the TOTV method.
Ask a question
Listen to opinions
Wait a couple of weeks
And then ask the question again

[biker1]

You can certainly encourage the CDDs to do more traffic studies. Keep in mind that collecting a statistically significant sample size after a change may be difficult. The people on TOTV are not really in a position to do much of anything except encourage the CDDs to address issues, real or perceived. It is not as if your average person can go out and design and execute a traffic experiment.

Originally Posted by tomwed

Here's an Orlando crime map used to make a point. http://www.orlandosentinel2.com/data/crime/

I don't think we need a crime map. But it would be helpful to have a traffic accident map for cars, carts, bikes and pedestrians that included multi model paths.

Frequently questions come up about safety. The stripes are a good example. With an accident map you could see where the dangerous areas are and maybe stripe or add those plastic center lane speed bumps there first and see if there is an improvement.

I think many of the threads are not approached scientifically like we learned in school.
The Scientific Method
Ask a Question
Do Background Research
Construct a Hypothesis
Test Your Hypothesis by Doing an Experiment
Analyze Your Data and Draw a Conclusion
Communicate Your Results

I think we use the TOTV method.
Ask a question
Listen to opinions
Wait a couple of weeks
And then ask the question again

[outlaw]

I think we underestimate the aggregate wisdom of TV residents...MMP striping comes to mind.

Expertise and the Wisdom of Crowds: Whose Judgments to Trust and When
Matthew B. Welsh (matthew.welsh@adelaide.edu.au)
University of Adelaide, North Tce
Adelaide, SA 5005, Australia
Abstract
The Wisdom of Crowds describes the fact that aggregating a
group’s estimate regarding unknown values is often a better
strategy than selecting even an expert’s opinion.

[biker1]

I don't see your point regarding the MMP striping. The engineering firm didn't recommend it and the majority of residents don't appear to be in favor. The only ones is favor seem to be a few representatives of the CDDs.

Originally Posted by outlaw

I think we underestimate the aggregate wisdom of TV residents...MMP striping comes to mind.

Expertise and the Wisdom of Crowds: Whose Judgments to Trust and When
Matthew B. Welsh (matthew.welsh@adelaide.edu.au)
University of Adelaide, North Tce
Adelaide, SA 5005, Australia
Abstract
The Wisdom of Crowds describes the fact that aggregating a
group’s estimate regarding unknown values is often a better
strategy than selecting even an expert’s opinion.

[tomwed]

Originally Posted by biker1

You can certainly encourage the CDDs to do more traffic studies. Keep in mind that collecting a statistically significant sample size after a change may be difficult. The people on TOTV are not really in a position to do much of anything except encourage the CDDs to address issues, real or perceived. It is not as if your average person can go out and design and execute a traffic experiment.

It doesn't need to be precise experiment. A friend of mine has a lanai on Evens Prairie and you can see 466A. At a party they said you would be amazed at all the accidents at the intersection with Buena Vista. That's enough information for me to take a double look and proceed more cautiously when crossing that road.

Suppose you don't have any friends at this end of town. You look at an accident map and it shows a lot of accidents at that intersection. It's useful.