[MandoMan]

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI

I have posted on the issue of metal roofs in the past and drew all kinds of uninformed opinions on them. The new metal roofing now available can be stamped and made to look like asphalt shingles. Friends of mine had a metal roof installed on their house and at a distance you couldn't see any difference from a conventional asphalt roof. There were no raised portions or seams to be seen. The roof was insulated for noise, so no, there was no sound of rain drops or hail hitting the roof in a storm. Too many uninformed people are basing their opinion on the metal roofing used in the past on barns, other farm buildings and on commercial buildings.
There have been claims that the metal will fade over the years and become unsightly. The fading will take a number of years to happen, and do you not think some enterprising entrepreneur will come up with a re-coating process to restore the color? You can bet your last dollar that it will be considerably cheaper than a new asphalt roof that will fade over the years also. My friend's roof had a 50 year warranty. How many companies that make asphalt shingles will give you a 50 year warranty?

I lived in homes with metal roofs for 34 years in Pennsylvania. One roof was perhaps a century old (200 year old log cabin). The other two I had installed in homes I had built or restored for me. I love metal roofs, even though mine cost about twice what asphalt would have cost. However, to me, stamped metal roofs that mimic asphalt roofs are ludicrous and phony. Given that they cost more than asphalt and are easier to blow off in a hurricane because they are light (not necessarily a problem with properly screwed down standing seam metal roofs), why bother? That said, the standing seam roofs often are very attractive.

[La lamy]

Originally Posted by villagetinker

I am guessing the leaks are probably at the screws (nails) that hold the roof in place, you MAY be able to simply seal these with a similar product in a caulk gun tube. I would go to ACE hardware and see what they recommend. NOTE: aluminum is notoriously hard to work with and there will probably be specific instructions on how to clean the area before the application of any sealer, follow these. If you need to use a metal brush DO NOT EVER USE A STEEL BRUSH, use only stainless-steel brushes.

Thanks Tinker

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Normal

The two main reasons metal roofs may not be ideal here are the fading and heavy rains. Our sun can sometimes be brutal to paint and metal roofs do look rather ugly after a while. I’m not sure how faded one should become or how you would gauge this if you were Community Standards.

Another drawback would of course be the noise from rain. As most know our rains here can be exceptionally hard and lengthy in duration. Also for many there would be the speed the water drains from a metal surface and soil erosion. Perhaps some landscaping would need upgraded to serve the higher volume?

Maybe the villages should consider them because of the shortage of labor that could be coming? There is the idea of the federal government fining those who employ illegal immigrants to defray costs and fund deportation costs. Perhaps a roofing contractor here has or had some working for them?

2024 was the Earth's HOTTEST on record - beating out 2023 for that DUBIOUS honor. The Gulf had record temperatures as did the Atlantic. Last summer were had 2 strong hurricanes affect Florida. Likely we will have other strong hurricanes and high winds in the future. This will make problems for the normally used roofs here in The Villages with 3-tab shingles, that are bad in high wind areas and hail areas. A type of roof that has a longer guarantee and is more energy efficient is a PVC membrane roof, which can be installed by All Florida Construction. They can give a lifetime warranty on their roof.
.......As far as metal roofing and noise........I imagine that additional insulation can be placed under the metal roofing to stop any NOISE problem.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Normal

To be clear I’m not for or against the more expensive option. I lived farther north in Michigan and also had a metal roof. The paint did fade after about 4 years, but we had a dark gray. I’m just wondering how a roof would be determined to be too faded here. Our major issue was ice dams, it was the reason we had it installed. Yes, our roof was louder but our home was almost 4,000 square feet too. I’m not sure if it was because they placed it over our shingles or not.

Metal roofs would be OK I guess if you paid the extra for some insulation it mitigated the noise problem. Also all homes that had the roofing could be forced to install 6 inch gutters. That would be a good thing. For sure though we don’t need mix matched neighborhoods with all different styles. Either the whole neighborhood is metal roofed or it isn’t. I suspect that would be your main sticking point with Community Standards.

If MORE people chose metal roofs (with insulation), then the price might come down. Also home insurance might come down. I disagree that ALL homes should look the same (remember the old song about "ticky tacky"). Personally I think that home owners should be allowed to have stone yards instead of grass because the fertilizer runoff from all the grass yards has caused the lakes to be overgrown with lake grass. Also, the fish have so much heavy metal poisoning that they can't be eaten.

[Kenswing]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

If MORE people chose metal roofs (with insulation), then the price might come down. Also home insurance might come down. I disagree that ALL homes should look the same (remember the old song about "ticky tacky"). Personally I think that home owners should be allowed to have stone yards instead of grass because the fertilizer runoff from all the grass yards has caused the lakes to be overgrown with lake grass. Also, the fish have so much heavy metal poisoning that they can't be eaten.

It NEVER ends. How does a discussion on METAL ROOFS turn into a ROCK LAWN and FERTILIZER in LAKES discussion?

[Normal]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I disagree that ALL homes should look the same (remember the old song about "ticky tacky").

You can disagree, I do too. It’s just that it would be tough to get a group that wants the neighborhood to look homogeneous and updated to allow a different look.

[Jalane]

Originally Posted by Mikee1

With the recent laws going into effect, I called Community Standards about allowing standing seam metal roofs, both times the answer was let me get an opinion from legal. A month later no response. I called today to check and was told they have not heard back from legal.
Maybe we will be allowed to have them.
Thoughts?

We put on 50-year Decra metal roof on our home in IL around 2010 that looked like stone-coated shingles. It lowered our homeowner's insurance because it was fire proof, could withstand gold-ball sized hail, and had a 120 mph wind rating. We did add insulation beyond what was in the attic, and did not have noise from rain. Many friends didn't realize it was metal. We also put it on the gazebo. I haven't figured out how to attach a picture here, but I'd be happy to email one to anyone who contacts me.

[Arctic Fox]

Originally Posted by Normal

...it would be tough to get a group that wants the neighborhood to look homogeneous and updated to allow a different look.

Put me down as another person who prefers the look of a mixed neighborhood.

When everyone's home and garden look identical, that area can look cheap and mass-produced.

There are very few villages in TV where every house model is the same (although some CYV developments may be) so having different roofing materials (when many are different colors anyway) would make very little additional difference.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Arctic Fox

Put me down as another person who prefers the look of a mixed neighborhood.

When everyone's home and garden look identical, that area can look cheap and mass-produced.

There are very few villages in TV where every house model is the same (although some CYV developments may be) so having different roofing materials (when many are different colors anyway) would make very little additional difference.

Cookie cutter, sardine can, Stepford. I've used all three terms to describe my initial thoughts of The Villages when we first started visiting for vacation. It was the #1 reason why I was so vehement against moving here. My parents live in a community where there are exactly four models of houses, and four colors available. Your house is not allowed to be the same color as the house on either side of you, but the colors are all just various shades of terra cotta so who cares, really? There are around 100 homes in their "section" of the community. What's worse, is the streets all have the same name. Orange Blossom Street, Orange Blossom Lane, Orange Blossom Road -

So if you're visiting for the first time and didn't put your GPS on - you will have no landmarks and similar-sounding street names guaranteed to get you lost.

While I totally get that a tidy community in well-maintained condition is important, it doesn't mean we have to be homogenous. If the tacky pink flamingo isn't missing a wing, I say put it in the flower bed and let people snicker as they drive by in their tacky sign-covered golf carts.

[MikeN]

Forgive me for laughing at your expense but during our purchase process we asked several questions about the process and were told “I have to ask my team “ was the answer. No one ever got back to us with the answer. Must be a standard response. Good luck and keep on them

[Topspinmo]

Heard on news this morning Florida considering getting rid of asphalt shingles? Good idea IMO metal roofs last life time for some of use and yes I had metal roof in OKC, best investment I ever made. My neighbors replace their roofs twice while my metal roof hardly took dent with golf ball size hail.

[nn0wheremann]

Quote: “ Maybe the villages should consider them because of the shortage of labor that could be coming? There is the idea of the federal government fining those who employ illegal immigrants to defray costs and fund deportation costs. Perhaps a roofing contractor here has or had some working for them?”…

Maybe the solution is to admit that our economy needs immigrant labor now, as much as it alway has, and come up with a system that allows labor companies or State labor departments to place people in jobs, then allow the people into the country intelligently.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by nn0wheremann

Quote: “ Maybe the villages should consider them because of the shortage of labor that could be coming? There is the idea of the federal government fining those who employ illegal immigrants to defray costs and fund deportation costs. Perhaps a roofing contractor here has or had some working for them?”…

Maybe the solution is to admit that our economy needs immigrant labor now, as much as it alway has, and come up with a system that allows labor companies or State labor departments to place people in jobs, then allow the people into the country intelligently.

Is there still green card system? If so why don they use it?

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

2024 was the Earth's HOTTEST on record - beating out 2023 for that DUBIOUS honor. The Gulf had record temperatures as did the Atlantic. Last summer were had 2 strong hurricanes affect Florida. Likely we will have other strong hurricanes and high winds in the future. This will make problems for the normally used roofs here in The Villages with 3-tab shingles, that are bad in high wind areas and hail areas. A type of roof that has a longer guarantee and is more energy efficient is a PVC membrane roof, which can be installed by All Florida Construction. They can give a lifetime warranty on their roof.
.......As far as metal roofing and noise........I imagine that additional insulation can be placed under the metal roofing to stop any NOISE problem.

Was it? I never hear that before...

Thanks for sharing that for the millionth time...

[DrMack]

We had a metal roof on our practice but it had metal screws with rubber washers that held it down. I know this only because I found some of the screws laying around when they were done. Do the rubber washers keep water from leaking in? What do they use down here? I know rubber would be a big no because of the heat. If there are great solutions, we would be interested.