[Mleeja]

Some of the deed restrictions have some "grey" in them and could be open to interpretation. However, the one on outbuildings is pretty clear. They are not permitted. Anyone thinking they could hide it behind a villa wall is taking a real chance. Anyone saying "just do it" is clearly giving bad advice. My question to them is, will they help pay the fines?

[vintageogauge]

play it safe and ask before you spend your money. If officially told you are not allowed, don't do it as you'll soon be taking it down and paying someone to haul it away. It only takes a phone call.

[Wiotte]

What if I want to place an attractive storage shed in my lanai ? It's fairly large at 17'x30'. It could easily accommodate a 6'x10' shed.

[perrjojo]

Originally Posted by Wiotte

What if I want to place an attractive storage shed in my lanai ? It's fairly large at 17'x30'. It could easily accommodate a 6'x10' shed.

Don't ask us, ask ACC.

[Mrs. Robinson]

Originally Posted by rubicon

NIMBY.... and the manner in which you reply tells us that indeed people are placing plastic/metal sheds in their yards. If true then someone is not doing their job .

Those nosy nellies you speak about understand and comply with the deed restrictions they agreed to and signed. They did so because they recognize that ultimately without such deed compliance this community is going to look trashy in a short period of time

So the uncharitable faction are not the residents abiding by deed restriction agreement but those breaching said agreement

There are basically two main reasons people moving to The Villages 1) golf 2) deed compliance.

If you traveled Florida you recognize that often you have to pass thru a bad area to get to a good area. With the community of villages ( developments)containing deed restrictions that unpleasantness is avoided.

Thinking like yours distracts and diminishes. Its unfortunate but we are all at the mercy of our neighbors and lately I am hearing some disturbing stories of neglect and abuse.

Bonnevie I do not like to be this direct but you have hit a nerve and that never is attached to most residents who live here.

I disagree with you 100%.

To my way of thinking, the two main reasons people move to TV are:

1. The weather
2. The activities

I really don't think those who move here give too much thought to the deed restrictions, until such time as they want to do something and can't, because of said restrictions.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Wiotte

What if I want to place an attractive storage shed in my lanai ? It's fairly large at 17'x30'. It could easily accommodate a 6'x10' shed.

If it feels good, do it.

[slipcovers]

Originally Posted by Wiotte

What if I want to place an attractive storage shed in my lanai ? It's fairly large at 17'x30'. It could easily accommodate a 6'x10' shed.

You might have to move to the spare bedroom.

[Wiotte]

Originally Posted by slipcovers

You might have to move to the spare bedroom.

You're probably right, squash that idea.

[asianthree]

Last year during a few high wind storms, we had chairs, umbrellas, and what looked like parts of a shed in our yard.

Our home watch person always asked everyone to bring in anything not anchored down. As she said it's ok for Dorothy and toto to fly around, but yard furniture and other things can cause huge amounts of damage to your property and others.

I agree with deed compliance, other wise you are going to have that 6 ft concrete dolphin living next to you, or somebody painting their house orange and purple. Our agreement at closing did state no outside structures. We chose oversized garage as well as a golf cart garage.

At our previous house in another village, the guy down the street had a full workshop in his garage and a shed next to it That he worked out of. We could hear the noise starting at 6 am until late in the night. We moved as did 5 other households. So be careful when you say go ahead no one will notice it may end up next door to you.

[Trayderjoe]

Originally Posted by Fredster

Your welcome,
Did you ever consider that even though some new TV home buyers (existing homes) were aware of deed restrictions,
but previous owners might have planted or done things
that were not in compliance but were actually quite nice in appearance.
And these things were fine for many years, until some
new or irritated neighbor made a complaint.

Maybe you did. but I didn't match up every item in the deed restrictions
with the existing house I purchased,
which had existed as it was for 10+ years.
Plus I looked over my deed restrictions again just recently, and to me,
they are not the easiest or clearest read around!

Actually your scenario is yet another reason that following the deed restrictions are important. Had the original seller done so, a future buyer might not end up having to remove that very nice patio that was built outside of the AR process by the original owner, but is subsequently found to be non-compliant. Conversely, the seller should have returned the property to a compliant status prior to the sale (I know, not likely) or disclosed the condition as part of the sale documentation. I confess to not knowing if there would be ramifications to the seller for omitting this information, although I suppose the time between the sale and discovery of the "defect" may have some influence.

I would also submit that one should not rely on the expertise of the contractor where it comes to what is allowed or not under the AR process. There are many posts on TOTV about this very topic, albeit they usually involve the "one off"contractors.

For sake of full disclosure, we are the first owners of our home, and we did review the deed restrictions just to be sure that nothing "stuck out at us". I agree that they are not the easiest read, although I did have to read several sections in the federal Code of Regulations as part of my job, so I guess I had some practice by the time the deed restriction documents came my way.

[Bonnevie]

Originally Posted by Trayderjoe

I agree with Rubicon and others that the deed restrictions need to be followed (the letter versus the spirit). We were informed of the deed restrictions PRIOR TO buying our home and I can assure you that there was no one in the closing meeting that held any sort of weapon or leverage on me (other than my wife.....<g>) to buy our home here.

There is a very slippery slope here that we can COMPLETELY avoid if we followed the restrictions WE AGREED to follow when the home was purchased. While the discussion in this thread is relative to storage sheds, when there is a tacit agreement to violate a deed restriction because the topic of discussion doesn't bother a person one way or the other, just change the topic a little. How would you feel if your neighbor decided to adopt another dog or two in addition to the two they already had when they moved in? How about putting up inflatable displays (outside of approved time frames) in a yard? Pick another example if you like, it doesn't matter how small or large the issue may be to you.

All of the scenarios above may not bother someone, but each and every one of them might bother someone who chose to live here in part because of the deed restrictions. If you perceive the deed restrictions to be too onerous, then either sell your home and move to a neighborhood that will allow you the "freedom" that apparently The Villages does not offer to you, or follow the deed restrictions and just enjoy living here.

The slippery slope starts when we venture from the objective to the subjective. There are those who grouse about people turning them in for deed restrictions, those who complain about deed restriction violators, and those who pick and choose which restriction needs to be followed. All of that can easily be avoided if we don't go down the slope. Wouldn't life be so much simpler if we "manned up" and accepted responsibility for our choice to live here?

People choose the spirit of the law everyday. Do you exceed the speed limit ever? even unintentionally? you know when you get a license you are not to exceed the speed limit. have you ever been in the check out line with 11 instead of 10 items. I still maintain if it's out of sight, it's not a problem.

I agree it can be a slippery slope, but we will just have to agree to disagree as the saying goes and be glad that we are not neighbors.

[collie1228]

Originally Posted by Bonnevie

People choose the spirit of the law everyday. Do you exceed the speed limit ever? even unintentionally? you know when you get a license you are not to exceed the speed limit. have you ever been in the check out line with 11 instead of 10 items. I still maintain if it's out of sight, it's not a problem.

I agree it can be a slippery slope, but we will just have to agree to disagree as the saying goes and be glad that we are not neighbors.

When you get a ticket for doing 40 MPH in a 30 and plan to tell the judge you were only violating the letter of the law, "choosing" (preferring) the spirit of the law, please give me a call so I can witness his response. That could be fun.

[Rango]

Originally Posted by rubicon

NIMBY.... and the manner in which you reply tells us that indeed people are placing plastic/metal sheds in their yards. If true then someone is not doing their job .

Those nosy nellies you speak about understand and comply with the deed restrictions they agreed to and signed. They did so because they recognize that ultimately without such deed compliance this community is going to look trashy in a short period of time

So the uncharitable faction are not the residents abiding by deed restriction agreement but those breaching said agreement

There are basically two main reasons people moving to The Villages 1) golf 2) deed compliance.

If you traveled Florida you recognize that often you have to pass thru a bad area to get to a good area. With the community of villages ( developments)containing deed restrictions that unpleasantness is avoided.

Thinking like yours distracts and diminishes. Its unfortunate but we are all at the mercy of our neighbors and lately I am hearing some disturbing stories of neglect and abuse.

Bonnevie I do not like to be this direct but you have hit a nerve and that never is attached to most residents who live here.

Personal Best Regards:

[gap2415]

Originally Posted by Wiotte

What if I want to place an attractive storage shed in my lanai ? It's fairly large at 17'x30'. It could easily accommodate a 6'x10' shed.

If enclosed, not sure about screened, I don't think anyone can tell you what you can or cannot put in your home for storage purposes. Outside, I think it's been said a shed is okay if bolted to cement and attached to the house in case of storm. (Many are sealed so rain and pests of all kinds have difficulty getting inside). Good sellers build sheds according to wind levels for the area, at least they do in SW Florida. They get the permit for you but make sure you get a copy to be in accordance. If, I'm correct in The Villages approval of this, it certainly makes life easier for a designated shed company to make this clear that his sheds are approved or TV to offer them themselves.

[gap2415]

Originally Posted by collie1228

When you get a ticket for doing 40 MPH in a 30 and plan to tell the judge you were only violating the letter of the law, "choosing" (preferring) the spirit of the law, please give me a call so I can witness his response. That could be fun.

I really don't think the poster was thinking 40 in a 30 but a mile or two. Spirit of the law to me means the real sense of what is trying to be accomplished.....but then, the Pharisees will always be among us pointing out every minor slight.