[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by John_W

You're in a new CYV, so your back masonry wall is 7' high and your side vinyl fencing is 6-1/2' high, that's what mine are. So there's no reason anyone should be able to see one of these. I was in Sam's Club a couple of days ago and they were on sale for $99.96 and they had them in stock.
I don't see how they could approve them and not approve a small storage box like this, that is if you bothered to ask. I've looked at these, and they can easily hold a few rakes and hand tools or a lawn mower.


Keter Rockwood 150-Gallon Outdoor Plastic Storage Box, Brown - Sam's Club

Lori, a couple of storage boxes, low profile, should do the trick. You don't need approval to add furniture.
The boxes are furniture, you can sit on them. Easy Peasy.

Originally Posted by jchase

If they can't see it, don't worry about it!

[Bonnevie]

Originally Posted by collie1228

When you get a ticket for doing 40 MPH in a 30 and plan to tell the judge you were only violating the letter of the law, "choosing" (preferring) the spirit of the law, please give me a call so I can witness his response. That could be fun.

that wasn't my point. my point was people do it despite it not being the letter of the law. that people choose the spirit of the law many times in their lives without a second thought especially if they think they are not causing anyone else harm. people speed all the time, roll through stop signs, park crazy, etc. of course a judge will follow the letter of the law.

[Trayderjoe]

Originally Posted by Bonnevie

People choose the spirit of the law everyday. Do you exceed the speed limit ever? even unintentionally? you know when you get a license you are not to exceed the speed limit. have you ever been in the check out line with 11 instead of 10 items. I still maintain if it's out of sight, it's not a problem.

I agree it can be a slippery slope, but we will just have to agree to disagree as the saying goes and be glad that we are not neighbors.

Regarding the example of speed limits, my point would be that if you exceed the speed limit, you do have the chance to get a speeding ticket. I am not saying you will, but you do open yourself up to the potential to being ticketed. If one chooses to not follow the law/rule, that is up to the individual, but then that person should be prepared for the consequences they appear at their doorstep. The same thing applies with not following the deed restrictions and the current system. My position is that we all should be following the restrictions and use the AR system where we wish to make changes that fall outside and need review.

I am by no means advocating a "police state" and I am not one of those people driving around looking to report things. I find it interesting that people get upset if they do "get caught" and blame their neighbors or Community Watch when they should be looking in a mirror. Again, if you want the "freedom" to make changes without being turned in or going through an AR review, or getting approval from a homeowner's association such as in condominiums, then buy a single residential home and have fun.

You mentioned if the shed is out of sight it is not a problem and I don't disagree with you, my original point is that the issue is larger than the shed itself. Who is the arbiter of each rule? If a neighbor plays music loud enough for you to hear it in your home, and it bothers you but not your neighbors, does that mean it is ok for that music to continue? Or is it ok if it is for a one night party, but not ok if it happens every night? How about a neighbor who has their kids move in along with the grandkids (<19 years old) and they stay for more than 30 days? Does it become a problem if they are there for 40 days? Three months? A year? Longer?

I recognize that this is the real world and not all rules are followed and some rules are "crazy". If someone chooses not to follow a rule, that is a personal choice, but they need to be prepared to accept any consequences that may arise.

So, yes we can agree to disagree, but your comment about being neighbors based solely upon this discussion (since you don't know me personally) is interesting as it appears to me that you would not like to be neighbors with people who don't have the same opinion as you. Sounds like an inflexible position to me.....

[rivaridger1]

Good lord, what a thread. It's a court yard villa. Three 2' by 4', or 6' heavy duty plastic storage boxes between the villas solve the problem. Load them up with outdoor tools and maintenance items and they are not going anywhere in the wind and no one can see them. They can also be used as a bench. As for drones and people peeking over walls, sometimes at twilight I go into the hot tub on the lanai nude. Not much to see but a real cheap thrill for the voyeurs. Have at it. I don't believe any deed restrictions deal with that, do they ?

[perrjojo]

Sheds are also a good place to house rats.

[Wiotte]

Sheds have many uses...not just for rake's anymore.

[rubicon]

Originally Posted by Trayderjoe

I agree with Rubicon and others that the deed restrictions need to be followed (the letter versus the spirit). We were informed of the deed restrictions PRIOR TO buying our home and I can assure you that there was no one in the closing meeting that held any sort of weapon or leverage on me (other than my wife.....<g>) to buy our home here.

There is a very slippery slope here that we can COMPLETELY avoid if we followed the restrictions WE AGREED to follow when the home was purchased. While the discussion in this thread is relative to storage sheds, when there is a tacit agreement to violate a deed restriction because the topic of discussion doesn't bother a person one way or the other, just change the topic a little. How would you feel if your neighbor decided to adopt another dog or two in addition to the two they already had when they moved in? How about putting up inflatable displays (outside of approved time frames) in a yard? Pick another example if you like, it doesn't matter how small or large the issue may be to you.

All of the scenarios above may not bother someone, but each and every one of them might bother someone who chose to live here in part because of the deed restrictions. If you perceive the deed restrictions to be too onerous, then either sell your home and move to a neighborhood that will allow you the "freedom" that apparently The Villages does not offer to you, or follow the deed restrictions and just enjoy living here.

The slippery slope starts when we venture from the objective to the subjective. There are those who grouse about people turning them in for deed restrictions, those who complain about deed restriction violators, and those who pick and choose which restriction needs to be followed. All of that can easily be avoided if we don't go down the slope. Wouldn't life be so much simpler if we "manned up" and accepted responsibility for our choice to live here?

Trayderjoe" slippery slope"is exactly correct... or how about the averages go down when a batter steps away from the batting box... or how about as time passes and people get older the property begins to lack maintenance. My wife and I shook our heads this AM when playing golf as she pointed out a home that desperately needed care...on a golf course.

I believe we have all seen what a storage shed looks like 4-5 years after its built.

if the rules are not enforced it won't be long before you will find a neighbor with his vehicle sitting on four concrete blocks with the wheels off.

So for those that claim "its none of your business" guess what it is because it affects everyone's real estate values

[Bonnevie]

Originally Posted by Trayderjoe

Regarding the example of speed limits, my point would be that if you exceed the speed limit, you do have the chance to get a speeding ticket. I am not saying you will, but you do open yourself up to the potential to being ticketed. If one chooses to not follow the law/rule, that is up to the individual, but then that person should be prepared for the consequences they appear at their doorstep. The same thing applies with not following the deed restrictions and the current system. My position is that we all should be following the restrictions and use the AR system where we wish to make changes that fall outside and need review.

I am by no means advocating a "police state" and I am not one of those people driving around looking to report things. I find it interesting that people get upset if they do "get caught" and blame their neighbors or Community Watch when they should be looking in a mirror. Again, if you want the "freedom" to make changes without being turned in or going through an AR review, or getting approval from a homeowner's association such as in condominiums, then buy a single residential home and have fun.

You mentioned if the shed is out of sight it is not a problem and I don't disagree with you, my original point is that the issue is larger than the shed itself. Who is the arbiter of each rule? If a neighbor plays music loud enough for you to hear it in your home, and it bothers you but not your neighbors, does that mean it is ok for that music to continue? Or is it ok if it is for a one night party, but not ok if it happens every night? How about a neighbor who has their kids move in along with the grandkids (<19 years old) and they stay for more than 30 days? Does it become a problem if they are there for 40 days? Three months? A year? Longer?

I recognize that this is the real world and not all rules are followed and some rules are "crazy". If someone chooses not to follow a rule, that is a personal choice, but they need to be prepared to accept any consequences that may arise.

So, yes we can agree to disagree, but your comment about being neighbors based solely upon this discussion (since you don't know me personally) is interesting as it appears to me that you would not like to be neighbors with people who don't have the same opinion as you. Sounds like an inflexible position to me.....

I'm sorry--lots of people in my neighborhood and I see things differently about things but we get along fine. I'm really just a live and let live, don't sweat the small stuff type of person.

[Trayderjoe]

Originally Posted by Bonnevie

I'm sorry--lots of people in my neighborhood and I see things differently about things but we get along fine. I'm really just a live and let live, don't sweat the small stuff type of person.

Thank you and best of luck to you.

[jsw14]

:I think this storage SHED thing has gong tooooo far out of the O-P... Storage for Out-Door stuff, like shovels, rake's & other stuff can be put on the wall in the garage. Two 3 inch dry-wall screw's will work just fine in my garage........ Hang-It-Up...

[ronsroni]

DRONES, VILLA WALL INSPECTORS, METER READERS, ROVING EYES OF THE TERMINALLY BORED LOVING RATTING PEOPLE OUT. All of these work against you.
Read your rules before the Shed Police descend on your home and you find yourself in print with the bandshell boppers after 10pm. Which is your good side for the photo op?

[lorilorilori]

Thx for giving me the smiles. Stay dry with Irma.