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Old 05-01-2013, 11:49 PM
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Silly?? Wow..Maybe you should have lived in my previous house for a week or so. You wouldn't have thought it was silly.
Agreed, paranormal activity that seems to belong to a house (rather than to its occupants) is not a fantasy; it may not be horrific, but it certainly isn't "silly".... I too know of very real experiences of others--real indeed!
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Agreed, paranormal activity that seems to belong to a house (rather than to its occupants) is not a fantasy; it may not be horrific, but it certainly isn't "silly".... I too know of very real experiences of others--real indeed!
When a door would close on it's own, or if the wind blew it, my German grandmother would say...hintergiest or poltergeist. I only know that geist means ghost. What does the other part mean and tell us about your spooked house too, Gocubsgo.

I don't want to believe in the paranormal and I haven't had anything paranormal happen to me so I am a bit of a sceptic.

My mother died when I was born and when I was a little girl I would pray that she came and tell me that she loved me, but she never did.

Wow. Is this getting personal and scary?
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I'm still trying to figure out the "grisly suicide" story. I thought I knew, but the one I thought it was happened more than two years ago.

I believe in paranormal activity, have experienced it. I think it really doesn't have to be in the location of passing, but people who are receptive are more likely to be visited.
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When a door would close on it's own, or if the wind blew it, my German grandmother would say...hintergiest or poltergeist. I only know that geist means ghost. What does the other part mean and tell us about your spooked house too, Gocubsgo.

I don't want to believe in the paranormal and I haven't had anything paranormal happen to me so I am a bit of a sceptic.

My mother died when I was born and when I was a little girl I would pray that she came and tell me that she loved me, but she never did.

Wow. Is this getting personal and scary?
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Old 05-02-2013, 08:39 AM
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When a door would close on it's own, or if the wind blew it, my German grandmother would say...hintergiest or poltergeist. I only know that geist means ghost. What does the other part mean and tell us about your spooked house too, Gocubsgo.

I don't want to believe in the paranormal and I haven't had anything paranormal happen to me so I am a bit of a sceptic.

My mother died when I was born and when I was a little girl I would pray that she came and tell me that she loved me, but she never did.

Wow. Is this getting personal and scary?
Maybe you HAVE had paranormal activity happen to you but because you are a skeptic, you didn't notice it! That was deep, huh?

Maybe it's my Irish ancestry but I have always had paranormal activity around me. This house in Chicago as I said was built on a John Doe cemetery of asylum patients.Our neighbor's had so much activity in their house, they moved out after 4 months. I stuck it out for 2 years and that was long enough. There was a Catholic priest who was new to the area and went around the neighborhood introducing himself. He came to my door and I invited him in. He stepped into the living room, stopped and turned white as the ghost that no doubt was there. he asked if he could come back and bless the house because he sensed something evil in it. After the blessing, the activity actually got worse...banging on closet doors all night, windows and bathroom mirrors breaking, rocking chairs rocking forward and backward HARD but the quilt draped over the back never moving and conversations...you could sit in a room and hear voices all around you like a party was going on. That's only a part of it.
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I believe some people are more intuitive and sensitive than others due to several factors. I am somewhat of a sceptic, but it's an area of study I'm really interested in more and more as I get older because I don't believe in having a completely closed mind to things I don't yet understand.
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I believe some people are more intuitive and sensitive than others due to several factors. I am somewhat of a sceptic, but it's an area of study I'm really interested in more and more as I get older because I don't believe in having a completely closed mind to things I don't yet understand.
The emphasis in the quote above is mine, and of course I have no way of knowing what "factors" DonH57 is considering. I had posted this on another thread and my response to the emphasized comment is below. One can be a skeptic, but as long as one keeps an open mind, then there's a world of potential knowledge to be gained!

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For what it's worth, the best friend of a cousin of mine is a psychic. Her explanation for this is what I emphasized above in part of the quoted comments [some folks are just more in tune with things spiritual or unseen…]. This woman has been called on by her local police to do everything from finding a body to locating evidence and has done things like this time and again. She has also served people in her community in matters relevant to her abilities.

She makes one point about her ability to do this that she says is crucial, and that is that it's a gift that she's been given, and it's her responsibility to use that gift to serve others. Consequently, she absolutely and categorically refuses, EVER, to accept any form of payment or gift or do anything (such as a lecture circuit or a book) that would generate personal income for her, stemming from her using her psychic abilities. She feels that it would be simply wrong to "capitalize" on her psychic abilities and does not agree with those who say that there is benefit to sharing what it's all about for her and be somehow paid for doing so. Her view is to simply use the skills to serve others. I mention this without comment other than to explain that this is simply her point of view....

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This woman helps individuals as well, not just governmental agencies, again refusing ever to consider accepting a gift or payment. She was called to the home of a couple whose young adult child (who still lived at the family home) had committed suicide, seemingly out of the clear blue and with no explanation. The parents were naturally devastated and confused.

She spent a while sitting and chatting with the parents, listening to everything they said which by and large were expressions of feelings rather than anything concrete. She then asked if she could spend some time in the child’s room, just to get a “feel” or “sense” of something—anything at all. After doing so, she came back downstairs to where the parents were sitting and apologetically explained that, unusual as it was, she had sensed nothing and regretfully could offer them no explanation and no solace other than her condolences.

She then added that the only thought or picture that had come to her mind made no sense and seemed completely irrelevant but that she would run it past them. She asked them if a “penguin” would seem to have any meaning to them in relation to their child, explaining that that image kept coming to her. The parents could not connect a penguin with anything, told her that it seemed meaningless to them, and she left.

Several months later the parents finally confronted dealing with the child’s room, packing up clothing, books, music, equipment that they had no wish to keep, and so forth. Suddenly, out of one book, a favorite of the child’s who had spoken about it to the parents in the past as having been very moved by it, fell what turned out to be a suicide note, the contents of which at least offered an explanation for the child’s rejection of life, though sadly nothing more. The book had been published by Random House and was part of the Penguin Library series.

The parents naturally contacted the psychic to tell her; she in turn felt relieved that at least the parents had some degree of answer for these devastated people. And to her, serving others with this unique skill (if that’s even the right word) was ALL that mattered....
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The house next door is in the foreclosure process. One of the owners committed suicide about 2-3 years ago and its been empty since. My question is this: When it finally goes on sale, will the agent be required to disclose the suicide, or will the buyers learn after they close and move in? Most of us neighbors know, so they are sure to discover this at some point, though they certainly won't hear it from me. The death was particularly grim and will disturb even the most even-tempered person.

So are there any real estate legal folks out there who know this answer?
In New Jersey the agent is only required to disclose it if directly asked by the buyer. It may be the same in Florida. There is nowhere on a disclosure that says" has someone died in the home." It strictly talks about structural concerns. In most 55+ communities, most buyers do expect there to be deceased owner, in an estate sale. Ususally no one asks how they died.
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People need to be more open minded when it comes to hauntings. The house I moved from in Chicago was so haunted, I had paranormal investigators from around the country lined up to come in and do research. I didn't stay long enough to wait for the results!

THAT house was built in 1885 and was built in an area where there were over 400 John and Jane Doe's buried from a local mental asylum. The realtor never told us the history of the area and as a result, that house and several other houses in a 3 block area were haunted. I'll never forget what happened to us in that house but...on topic...the realtor never said a word.
Very interesting post. Restless spirits who have died by unnatural means might linger........

However, as someone else mentioned and I was going to say myself.....in the "olden days" people were born at home and died at home.

In New England many of these older homes remain........so obviously, there have been a lot of deaths prior to new owners purchasing a home.

As my mom used to say all the time......"It's not the dead that can hurt you, but the living".........she got that from her mom..........

However, as anyone who has watched "Ghost Whisperer" ....there are nice ghosts and not so nice ghosts.

Do tell what happened in your home...........
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agreed, paranormal activity that seems to belong to a house (rather than to its occupants) is not a fantasy; it may not be horrific, but it certainly isn't "silly".... I too know of very real experiences of others--real indeed!
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I believe some people are more intuitive and sensitive than others due to several factors. I am somewhat of a sceptic, but it's an area of study I'm really interested in more and more as I get older because I don't believe in having a completely closed mind to things I don't yet understand.
So true......good post.

More things in heaven and Earth, Horatio definition :

A phrase used by the title character in the play Hamlet, by William Shakespeare.

Hamlet suggests that human knowledge is limited:

"THERE ARE MORE THINGS IN HEAVEN AND EARTH, HORATIO, THAN ARE DREAMT OF IN YOUR PHILOSOPHY."
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First off I have to say I never intended to plagerize Quixote's quote. I should have said influences instead of factors. Overall I believe our genetic make up, upbringing and enviornment help to develope any abilities we may have. I guess developement is the key. I once read somewhere that children are more prone to have experiences until it's drilled into them that there is no such thing as ghosts, or spirits or the like. It was done to me but I refused to listen.
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So true......good post.

More things in heaven and Earth, Horatio definition :

A phrase used by the title character in the play Hamlet, by William Shakespeare.

Hamlet suggests that human knowledge is limited:

"THERE ARE MORE THINGS IN HEAVEN AND EARTH, HORATIO, THAN ARE DREAMT OF IN YOUR PHILOSOPHY."

I think Shakespeare had a dog too.

Didn't he say "Out damned Spot" ".
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I think Shakespeare had a dog too.

Didn't he say "Out damned Spot" ".
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First off I have to say I never intended to plagerize Quixote's quote. I should have said influences instead of factors. Overall I believe our genetic make up, upbringing and enviornment help to develope any abilities we may have. I guess developement is the key. I once read somewhere that children are more prone to have experiences until it's drilled into them that there is no such thing as ghosts, or spirits or the like. It was done to me but I refused to listen.
Good for you! Think with an open mind and you'll be surprised what happens!
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