Super Bowl - "Black National Anthem" - WHY ??

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Apparently, they want division. Different dorms, dances, proms and graduations. Separate dining halls. Different expectations. Only option may be to treat races differently. quite a 180 from when we were growing up.
"Races"?

My wife is ethnic Thai, and she neither wants nor expects to be treated any differently than anyone else, based on that fact.

We have Thai, Filipino and Korean friends. Same thing applies.
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"Races"?

My wife is ethnic Thai, and she neither wants nor expects to be treated any differently than anyone else, based on that fact.

We have Thai, Filipino and Korean friends. Same thing applies.
Nicely put. The NFL probably is showing the Black National Anthem for ratings and to appeal to many of its players as it probably addresses the issues they have had over their and their fathers, mothers, grandfathers, grandmothers, etc. lives.

I doubt if they want to be treated differently though in their everyday experiences. Just as fellow human beings with the rights and responsibilities of anyone else.
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I really did not care, BUT your post made me think. If a group has an anthem for their nation, are there then two nations? I remember watching the Mets play the expos when I was a kid. Since they were two separate nations, two national anthems were played. Is that the case here? Will there be a black national flag? What next, separate dorms, dining halls, proms and graduations? (oh wait. That has happened)
Let's hope not. Imagine you could only eat one thing. No spices. No salt or pepper. Think of all the wonderful flavors you would miss out on. Same with people. If we separate then we miss out on all the friends and experiences we could have had. Variety IS the spice of life. Remember, an anthem is simply a song that holds significance for a group of people. Like hymn, not everyone sees its importance. But for a religious group it can hold special meaning. Same with any song.
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Why not call it a folk song instead of the black national anthem ? Same song - same lyrics - same message - less controversy. Our country's history of cultures relaying their messages has been through folk songs. I would like to know who had the authority to name the song the black "national" anthem. Is not congress the only authority that can declare a "national" anthem ?

March 3 1931
President Herbert Hoover signs a congressional act making “The Star-Spangled Banner” the official national anthem of the United States.

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Why not call it a folk song instead of the black national anthem ? Same song - same lyrics - same message - less controversy. Our country's history of cultures relaying their messages has been through folk songs. I would like to know who had the authority to name the song the black "national" anthem. Is not congress the only authority that can declare a "national" anthem ?
I somewhat agree, but the "Black national anthem" is probably just an "aka" term, or "commonly referred to" term. As far as I know, this beautiful (jmho) song has no official standing as "national". But the term "anthem" indicates that it holds special meaning to a group of individuals. Folksong, hymn, whatever! I enjoy it.
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Granted this is an opinion, and probably will be removed from forum.
So; What was the purpose/benefit of singing the "Black National Anthem" at the Super Bowl??
We are ONE NATION, with ONE NATIONAL ANTHEM!!
To me, the Black National Athem, encourages division, it does not encourage unity!
So, what is next? Latino Anthem, or maybe LGBTQ anthem.
"ONE NATION.....with liberty and justice for all", what is wrong with that??

For Latio "anthem", may I suggest La Bomda by Richie Valenz. For LGBTQ anthem, may I suggest I'm Coming Out by Diana Ross. Any others I can recommend for you? As to your "Why? In your title, may I offer, maybe as entertainment for the enjoyment of a variety of music lovers. Jmho!
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The NFL stands for the "National Football League." We only have one(1) NATIONAL anthem. Either play the "NATIONAL anthem" or play nothing. Anything else should logically be reserved for halftime entertainment. Either you are AMERICAN, also known as being a U.S. citizen or you are not. If not, then why would any American wish to hear your divisive song given equal status? If you set a precedence then you are asking for a Latino, Asian, gender confused, etc. to demand equal time for a song of their choice. And by the way, this has NOTHING to do with equality.

It's not a "but, the song is really nice, or what difference does it make, or I don't like the wording of our National Anthem." If you were born in America or are Nationalized, you have only ONE National Anthem. Don't like it? Suck it up buttercup.
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The NFL stands for the "National Football League." We only have one(1) NATIONAL anthem. Either play the "NATIONAL anthem" or play nothing. Anything else should logically be reserved for halftime entertainment. Either you are AMERICAN, also known as being a U.S. citizen or you are not. If not, then why would any American wish to hear your divisive song given equal status? If you set a precedence then you are asking for a Latino, Asian, gender confused, etc. to demand equal time for a song of their choice. And by the way, this has NOTHING to do with equality.

It's not a "but, the song is really nice, or what difference does it make, or I don't like the wording of our National Anthem." If you were born in America or are Nationalized, you have only ONE National Anthem. Don't like it? Suck it up buttercup.
So no “America the Beautiful?” No “God Bless the USA” either? Or is there a physical and/or temporal boundary - not within twenty five minutes of start time or not within 100yds of mid-field?

Or maybe just accept that the complainers are going to find something to complain about - even if they have to make it up themselves. That being the case, ignore them and perform a nice, meaningful song.
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"Stairway to Heaven". Rock Anthem.

AC/DC “long ways to top if want rock and roll”

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The NFL stands for the "National Football League." We only have one(1) NATIONAL anthem. Either play the "NATIONAL anthem" or play nothing. Anything else should logically be reserved for halftime entertainment. Either you are AMERICAN, also known as being a U.S. citizen or you are not. If not, then why would any American wish to hear your divisive song given equal status? If you set a precedence then you are asking for a Latino, Asian, gender confused, etc. to demand equal time for a song of their choice. And by the way, this has NOTHING to do with equality.

It's not a "but, the song is really nice, or what difference does it make, or I don't like the wording of our National Anthem." If you were born in America or are Nationalized, you have only ONE National Anthem. Don't like it? Suck it up buttercup.
Where is it written that any song holds "equal status" with the Star Spangled Banner? I've never seen that. Your getting over wrought over nothing. Mountain over a molehill.
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So no “America the Beautiful?” No “God Bless the USA” either? Or is there a physical and/or temporal boundary - not within twenty five minutes of start time or not within 100yds of mid-field?

Or maybe just accept that the complainers are going to find something to complain about - even if they have to make it up themselves. That being the case, ignore them and perform a nice, meaningful song.
I guess, it depends on whether or not the intent is to divide the country. It is customary for the National Anthem to be sung for the opening of our sports. I believe that several other countries do the same with their National Anthem. But gee, if it's all about "can't we all get along?" then by all means, break traditions by stomping all over them just to please a few and anger or disgust the rest. Like I said before, we can start the game an hour earlier and give everyone with an ethnic or diverse background a chance to entertain their little section of America. Perhaps we could even slip in a magic show or some dance routines. Why wait until the half-time?
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AC/DC “long ways to top if want rock and roll”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9Z39Uqybcw

Bag pipes baby!!!!!
I'd love to hear Ozzie's Crazy Train played on the pipes! 🙃
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So no “America the Beautiful?” No “God Bless the USA” either? Or is there a physical and/or temporal boundary - not within twenty five minutes of start time or not within 100yds of mid-field?

Or maybe just accept that the complainers are going to find something to complain about - even if they have to make it up themselves. That being the case, ignore them and perform a nice, meaningful song.
I don't think anyone could make the case that "America the Beautiful" or "God Bless the USA" is divisive or the "anthem" of only one particular ethnic group. That's the boundry line.
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Where is it written that any song holds "equal status" with the Star Spangled Banner? I've never seen that. Your getting over wrought over nothing. Mountain over a molehill.
Not me. Just my two cents. I know how to change the channel and don't even have to leave my chair to do it, anymore. Great invention, that remote control. You might want to look up the meaning of "mountain over a molehill."
"Making a mountain out of a molehill is an idiom referring to over-reactive, histrionic behavior where a person makes too much of a minor issue. It seems to have come into existence in the 16th century"
By the way, some folks sacrificed a lot for the U.S. of A. and do not feel that our National Anthem is trivial issue.
On the other hand, just expressing my opinion which may not be worth two cents. Interesting subject and worthy of discussion.
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