[BS Beef]

Just wanted to clarify that I think this isGREAT NEWS!!!!. I was just waxing poetic about my frustration with the whole how do you stop the endless cycle thing.

[graciegirl]

Um....boy howdy?

[GatorFan]

I hope he gets some help and is able to turn his life around . Very sad

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by GatorFan

I hope he gets some help and is able to turn his life around . Very sad

I hope they keep them behind bars so they don't do it again. By the time you are 16 and 20 you already KNOW it is wrong to steal from people and they are obviously able bodied enough to work at any number of jobs.


I don't feel sorry for them at all. The teachable time for morals has passed. That happens in the first five years.

[red tail]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I hope they keep them behind bars so they don't do it again. By the time you are 16 and 20 you already KNOW it is wrong to steal from people and they are obviously able bodied enough to work at any number of jobs.


I don't feel sorry for them at all. The teachable time for morals has passed. That happens in the first five years.

boy howdy...I don't always agree with you but with this one im with you baby!

[rubicon]

chances are they will continue their life of crime. Recidivism is greater for young males because they develop a history o crime and because they are released and re-released while still young. I watch 60 minutes

[TexaninVA]

Originally Posted by TVMayor

From the Villages News.com

Like everyone, I'm glad law enforcement nabbed these two kids. But, what's troubling about it, is this is the first instance I've heard of where criminals just decided to target TV, with no prior casing of the place. And, in addition, they broke into an occupied house in the middle of the night. I hope this is not a trend.

On another level it illustrates other things ... obvious things actually.

1. There are a lot of very poor and in some cases desperate people living around TV. They view us all as being "rich" thus, like Willie Sutton, they go where the money is.

2. While the article has nothing about these two "youths" background, the chances are high they both come from single parent families and most likely have never truly been exposed to what most of us would recognize as right vs wrong.

3. Which means ... this will probably happen again.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by BS Beef

The whole thing is so sad. So young. That said I'm so very thankful that one of the crimes has been solved (breaking down doors & mugging being the others). I'm so conflicted on the whole thing. I don't see any benefit of a short meaningless sentence, so I'm hoping for a lengthy deterrent type sentence. But I'm also hopeful for some type of rehabilitation. Rehabilitation has to start from within (the person that committed the crime) IMHO. But I'm not sure there is a lot if any rehabilitation going on in our penal system currently. The alternative is an endless cycle of wash, rinse, repeat.

You are right on this, in Florida they just build more prisons.

[NoMoSno]

Originally Posted by TexaninVA

come from single parent families and most likely have never truly been exposed to what most of us would recognize as right vs wrong.

I was raised in a single parent environment.
Mom taught right from wrong very strictly...

I just don't accept the single parent excuse.

[tv2016]

Originally Posted by NoMoSno

I was raised in a single parent environment.
Mom taught right from wrong very strictly...

I just don't accept the single parent excuse.

Yeah... I too find the statement about single parents very broad... and offensive. It may or may not be true in the cases, but that's quite a generalization and offensive to many.

[TexaninVA]

Originally Posted by tv2016

Yeah... I too find the statement about single parents very broad... and offensive. It may or may not be true in the cases, but that's quite a generalization and offensive to many.

Actually, I did not intend it to be an excuse but factual and partially explanatory of the behaviour. These young criminals were either not taught the difference between right and wrong, or if they were, they could care less.

In the cultural instance I was using it I think the generalization is accurate.

If you happen to find it offensive, well then that's how you view it I suppose.

[Steve & Deanna]

I'm glad they caught these guys and kudos to law enforcement for that. I believe that even youngsters know better than to take someone else's property. I do not believe in rehabilitation. I believe some form of unpalatable punishment is in order i.e. leg chains picking up trash by the side of the road for six months straight or send them out to Sheriff Joe Arpaio in Phoenix, AZ for six months. That would make one stop and think before committing a crime against someone again; but my question is where is justice for the poor victim(s) that have been violated?

[Wi11iam]

Originally Posted by Steve & Deanna

I'm glad they caught these guys and kudos to law enforcement for that. I believe that even youngsters know better than to take someone else's property. I do not believe in rehabilitation. I believe some form of unpalatable punishment is in order i.e. leg chains picking up trash by the side of the road for six months straight or send them out to Sheriff Joe Arpaio in Phoenix, AZ for six months. That would make one stop and think before committing a crime against someone again; but my question is where is justice for the poor victim(s) that have been violated?

Agree with you..100%

[BS Beef]

Originally Posted by Steve & Deanna

I'm glad they caught these guys and kudos to law enforcement for that. I believe that even youngsters know better than to take someone else's property. I do not believe in rehabilitation. I believe some form of unpalatable punishment is in order i.e. leg chains picking up trash by the side of the road for six months straight or send them out to Sheriff Joe Arpaio in Phoenix, AZ for six months. That would make one stop and think before committing a crime against someone again; but my question is where is justice for the poor victim(s) that have been violated?

If that's the case then why are crimes still being committed in Phoenix? I fully support Sheriff Arpaio and wish there were more like him. But I'm pretty sure he would tell you he'd like to see them rehabilitated so they don't keep coming back his way.

[Rango]

Originally Posted by 2BNTV

I feel safer, knowing they were caught, by LEO. Life is good!!!

16 years old and he picked, a heck of a career path.

That is a little young. IMHO

Don't feel too safe, they're out on bail.