[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by cybermuda

An indoor pool would be a nice addition to the facilities, but I can't see it happening other than as a stand-alone commercial venture, which would need several thousand people to join as members ahead of time.

If the Rec Dept announced it was building one, there would be complaints from those living too far away to use it conveniently.

Maybe some of the existing sports pools could be fitted with lights to extend their operating hours - perhaps even inflatable domes to keep the weather out and the heat in?

Now that's a great idea!

[Pturner]

Originally Posted by cybermuda

An indoor pool would be a nice addition to the facilities, but I can't see it happening other than as a stand-alone commercial venture, which would need several thousand people to join as members ahead of time.

If the Rec Dept announced it was building one, there would be complaints from those living too far away to use it conveniently.

Maybe some of the existing sports pools could be fitted with lights to extend their operating hours - perhaps even inflatable domes to keep the weather out and the heat in?

Originally Posted by graciegirl

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Now that's a great idea!

It is a good idea. Let's all put it in our survey next Feb.

[Larry Wilson]

Yes building is empty. Pool is still there. Plan was to sell or rent the building but it was so overpriced- that plan fell through. All the people who used the pool had a big protest and still miss it to this day.

I run around so much that some days I don't even turn on the computer, thus late answers.

[swimdawg]

Originally Posted by Pturner

It is a good idea. Let's all put it in our survey next Feb.

I'll hold you to that!

Yes....bring on an indoor pool...one way or the other. It would be nice to have an option to swim indoors in the event of inclement weather.....
.....or maybe an evening or early morning swim when it's dark. IMHO natch!

[Russ_Boston]

Originally Posted by Larry Wilson

The original developer has turned over in his grave many times to see how his development has changed.
Harold really wanted what was best for the residents.

I think he was turning over to get a better view of this wonderful place

Larry - If you go back and read the history (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Villages,_Florida) The Villages was struggling with sales until they brought H. Gary Morse on board. So taking over for Harold wasn't necessarily a bad thing.

I still think the lack of indoor pools, while it would be nice, isn't a big deterrent. And I guess the 7 new homeowners who close every day would agree with me. Can't knock the success.

[Larry Wilson]

Russ,
I've never said anything you don't fight with... You named me so I will respond.

When you live here FULL TIME OVER MANY YEARS you will see...The pools are empty a great deal of time because of cold weather, wind, rain and lightning. Also, for many people they can't take the full sun. The indoor pool was at max and for many people an indoor pool is a big deal.


No one in the academic world will allow wikipedia as a research source. The reason why is people write up what they want.

Gary and his people wrote that fair and balanced wikipedia piece along with putting in the Sun. We all know the Sun is a biased. Live here and talk to the people who knew his Dad. I've heard it said from people a thousand times who live here that " Harold would turn over in his grave." Not my quote, like I said. I've heard it a million times in many situations.

My neighbor grew up with Gary. Gary ruined every company his Dad gave him. He is completely estranged from his brother and the family is even less impressed with Gary's son.

The flow of the thread is we had an indoor pool and we still need one.

I am now breaking off our little dialog.

End of conversation. Have a good night.

[Russ_Boston]

Who the heck said I was fighting with you. We 'name' each other here all the time when you quote someone which is done hundreds of times each day. What's the difference if I use your name in my reply?

It's a fact that Gary took over not Wiki fiction. Would you like to dispute that?

I still ask: If it was Harold's idea to have indoor pools then why were none EVER put in. Not just since Gary took over but when Harold was still viable in the biz.

Why not just answer the question that I ask instead of diverted the subject to any dispute you think you have with me. I'm allowed to ask a question about a statement that someone makes? You said Harold had a vision for many indoor pools. Then why were none ever put in when they went across the street and built SS area? That was very early on and Harold was still the main man. Yes? So please take the time if you can to answer the question I raised about a statement that you made.

[Russ_Boston]

Originally Posted by Larry Wilson

Gary ruined every company his Dad gave him. He is completely estranged from his brother and the family is even less impressed with Gary's son.

So you are saying that Gary ruined the Villages? Last time I checked it was THE largest real estate development in the entire US. And they are closing 7 homes per day when no one else is selling any. We have a very nice hospital, hundreds of miles of cart paths, nearly 100 restaurants, dozens of retail outlets and growing, almost 600 holes of golf etc. etc.

If that's ruining a company then I wish Gary and family ran my business.

[Russ_Boston]

Back to the subject of an indoor pool:

Would anyone who says that we need an indoor pool please answer this question: If it were SO viable and needed that residents would pay a little extra for it then why has no one ever built one? Seems like it would make business sense if it were that needed.

How in heck would one lonely pool built by TV ever survive the winter months? As it is many indoor activities book early in the winter.

When I was there this past January it was the coldest week of the year. Yet there were many many people in the sport pools doing their laps like they do every day of the year. Maybe not as many as a warm day but still very many.

Would be nice to have if they had one in each Village but our costs would have to be much higher.

[swimdawg]

Originally Posted by Russ_Boston

Back to the subject of an indoor pool:

Would anyone who says that we need an indoor pool please answer this question: If it were SO viable and needed that residents would pay a little extra for it then why has no one ever built one? Seems like it would make business sense if it were that needed.

How in heck would one lonely pool built by TV ever survive the winter months? As it is many indoor activities book early in the winter.

When I was there this past January it was the coldest week of the year. Yet there were many many people in the sport pools doing their laps like they do every day of the year. Maybe not as many as a warm day but still very many.

Would be nice to have if they had one in each Village but our costs would have to be much higher.

I was there in January and it was way too cold to swim laps in the outdoor sports pools.

An indoor pool in every Village is cost prohibitive.....as would be a sports pool in every Village. However, an indoor pool...perhaps one or two in each Square area would be a welcomed addition to many.

[graciegirl]

Swimdawg is my dearest friend. We would love for her to have a pool in the cold months as she is a person who swims every day...except Sundays. I know that there are many people like her that swim every day.

However, I do see that if an outside company would establish a need, then it would be built. The problem is as usual, It is desperately needed in the cold, cold, times and the lightning times, but since we have so many other pools, it would be abandoned except for those times.

This is a problem not easily solved.

[chuckster]

Would be a good idea if, and I say if users would have to financially support such a venture by paying annual fees similar to health club memberships. Non users and those physically unable would be exempt from a village wide fee (increase in amenity fees) since many including myself are not interested. Don't think it would pass resident (user) approval but just a thought.

[swimdawg]

We do have indoor and outdoor pools up north. Of course, the outdoor pools are only opened during the summer months between Memorial Day and Labor Day.

We have the option of either using the outdoor or indoor pools under our membership. Interesting, almost all the members I swim with continue to use the indoor pool because we are used to swimming early in the morning.......and at 6:30 am, the outdoor pools are too cold....the AIR is too cold.

And yes there is an annual membership fee which we are all glad to pay for the opportunity to swim indoors "whether the weather" is good or bad.

It seems to me that when I was given a tour of the Fitness Facilities in TV, there was a membership fee as well. It wasn't included in the amenities fee, is that correct?

Almost all our YMCA's here have indoor pools......and they are thriving. I wonder if there is "Y" in TV area? I did mention it to a friend of mine who is an executive at a "Y" around here and she indicated that the Florida "Y"'s are a separate entity. Maybe a YMCA in the 466 A area would be a good idea.....with an INDOOR pool, of course.

[cybermuda]

I found swimming in the outdoor pools in January very enjoyable - it was going from and to the changing rooms that was tough :-)

Once inflatable domes could be made strong enough to withstand high winds, a number of outdoor pools fitted them Fall through Spring so that they could be open year-round.

However, the benefit (increase in revenue) from doing that would be more than the benefits (slightly extended usage, and lower heating bills) in TV.

Would be an interesting experiment at one pool - maybe Savannah as that is slightly more enclosed than the newer ones.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by graciegirl;

The problem is as usual, It is desperately needed in the cold, cold, times and the lightning times, but since we have so many other pools, it would be abandoned except for those times.

I don't think it would be abandoned in good weather. Many people want to use a pool that is protected from the sun.