[1golfergal]

Originally Posted by crash

I was told kissing lanais is the number one reason for at least one move in the Villages.

Exactly why we moved less than one month in house (had a pool so sold FAST!!!)

Could not stand neighbor out on Lanai talking on cell phone..... do people just not get it....???.... Same with people in Restaurants.... I go up to people and tell them to either go outside or tone it down.... SO ANNOYING!!!!!

I will probably get shot one day for doing that.... but I don't want to hear your conversation.... ESPECIALLY if I am way across the room. SMH!!!!!

[Marathon Man]

An excellent warning about something that is often done and never thought about. Thank you from everyone.

[TeresaA]

Originally Posted by Rainger99

When is the last time you gave someone your social security number over the phone?

Is he retired military? I still give my SSN over the phone when making an appointment

[rustyp]

Originally Posted by asianthree

Sadly we have many who are hard of hearing in TV. We just had 3 new neighbors moved in two of which spend hours, yelling into their phone.

This week our neighbor 4 houses down, who is retired IRS, mentioned how clear he could hear their conversations. We have ponds, and prairie behind houses, so sounds really can travel. Today he made a visit welcoming the two new neighbors.

Then politely gave each of them a paper with their social security numbers, and credit card numbers. They were shocked, their voices carried so far, and clearly that anyone could have written down their personal info during phone calls, they made in their lanai.

Fair warning, be careful while outside when giving out your info during a phone call, someone may not be so honest.

Or perhaps your IRS retired neighbor has access to the new neighbors info via his previous occupation. How many hours did he have to listen to get a full SS or credit card # ? Then he wrote the info down on a piece of paper and handed it to them. I cannot recall the last time someone asked me for the full #'s VS the last 4 digits over the phone. Story doesn't pass the smell test for me.

[asianthree]

Originally Posted by rustyp

Or perhaps your IRS retired neighbor has access to the new neighbors info via his previous occupation. How many hours did he have to listen to get a full SS or credit card # ? Then he wrote the info down on a piece of paper and handed it to them. I cannot recall the last time someone asked me for the full #'s VS the last 4 digits over the phone. Story doesn't pass the smell test for me.

So old school writing stuff down…who does that? Voice to text very accurate. 5 minute phone call is all it takes. Ok my mom in law write everything down on newspaper or envelopes, but she can’t figure out cellphones, so at 97 it’s expected.

Friday at Havana, for lunch, a lady probably in 80s on her phone gave her CC# making an appointment for HVAC that wasn’t running. One worries about your CC being duplicated, at restaurants. This would be easier for anyone, no CC in hand.

Think any person could press record on their phone, all info captured clearly. This was a post to make people aware of how easy one can make this information public.

[Pennyt]

We have trees and shrubs all around our patio. Yet I can hear the guy one house down from us burp or pass gas. If you are having a conversation on your lanai you are being heard by anyone with normal hearing. The conversation doesn't have to be loud. I say nothing I wouldn't be ok to share with the world when I'm on my lanai. I had a sound expert tell me that if water can come through a barrier so can sound so landscaping doesn't stop sound; it's more of a psychological barrier. Be aware what you say when outside or in public places.

[Freehiker]

My neighbor talks super loud and smokes weed on her lanai.

Stinky.

[Glowing Horizon]

Originally Posted by GizmoWhiskers

Great neighborly justure. Most people don't think about their voices traveling when outside in their lanais for sure.

Side note, as a former irs agent, perhaps he could call the social security head-quarters and remind them that allowing 2 billion social security numbers to be breached isn't exacly responsible (a little published headline). Bring back the days of old when corruption wasn't rampid. It's so sad.

Doesn’t it make you wonder why we have PIN numbers for bank accounts, credit cards, & even @IRS for taxes but we have no PIN for our social security. The number could simply be expanded from 9 digits to, for instance, 13 digits to allow the each person to assign their own choice of 4 digits.

[Glowing Horizon]

Originally Posted by asianthree

Sadly we have many who are hard of hearing in TV. We just had 3 new neighbors moved in two of which spend hours, yelling into their phone.

This week our neighbor 4 houses down, who is retired IRS, mentioned how clear he could hear their conversations. We have ponds, and prairie behind houses, so sounds really can travel. Today he made a visit welcoming the two new neighbors.

Then politely gave each of them a paper with their social security numbers, and credit card numbers. They were shocked, their voices carried so far, and clearly that anyone could have written down their personal info during phone calls, they made in their lanai.

Fair warning, be careful while outside when giving out your info during a phone call, someone may not be so honest.

Some car’s cell phone calls can also be clearly overheard outside of the car when talking hands-free over the car’s radio. We used that to sometimes play embarrassing tricks on our teenagers. For example, when picking them up from school we loudly say something fantastically fabricated that we knew they wouldn’t want their peers to hear like “yeah Grandma I’m picking up Johnny right now. ok. I’ll tell him to be sure to wear clean underwear tomorrow :0

[Runway48]

I'm surprised by all the talk of giving out SSN for doctor's appointments. Is this unique to FL. I live in NY and I've never had to give out my SSN for a doctor's appointment. They do ask for my Medicare Number and any other gap insurance. If you pay on-line or through the mail, CC#s over the phone are not needed. It is very rare when I would give a CC# over the phone. Some of the more common points of CC# thefts are through doctor's office receptionists and in restaurants. When they walk away with your card you give them the opportunity. It happened to me. Fortunately, I frequently check my CC accounts and caught it before any serious damage was done and immediately ordered a new card. It's the world we live in.

[sdifede313@aol.com]

Originally Posted by asianthree

Read the first post.

Allways remember to make those phone calls in doors!

[Shipping up to Boston]

I wish I was a fly on the wall when the retired IRS individual approached his neighbor.....was it “Hi, I’m from the government and I’m here to help”! *

*RIP Mr. Reagan

[justjim]

Many of us had large lots prior to retirement. Lots of work to keep our properties in shape that took the better part of a day in some cases. Those days are over - gone! I’ve said this several times on TOTV, “You can pick your house and sometimes your lot but not your neighbors.” I know some friends and acquaintances who enclosed their lanai’s, in some cases, because of neighbors.

As that great philosopher Clint Eastwood once said: “You adapt, improvise, overcome”.

[bsouthworth47@yahoo.com]

[How about going over to their house and talk with them instead of coming on here. Maybe they don't realize that they are so loud all the neighbors can hear them.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Originally Posted by asianthree

Fair warning, be careful while outside when giving out your info during a phone call, someone may not be so honest.

Also remember that there are security systems which are capable of recording voices and conversations, even if there is no motion, the sound triggers the recording. We can easily listen to our neighbor's conversation as he is very loud naturally. . . we have no idea if he is talking on the phone or to another person in the vicinity.

Many thanks as a reminder of the dangers of the modern world which are not in our historical DNA for safety. .