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You use a heatpump, which has a refrigerant loop, with a heat exchanger to the pool water. Heatpumps can work in both directions. The "hot" side is after the compressor and the "cold" side is after the expansion valve. If you want to cool the water, the heat exchanger to the pool water will be on the "cold" side and the "hot" side will release the heat to the outside air. Reverse the situation and the heat exchanger will be provided heat on the "hot" side and remove heat from the outside air on the "cold" side.


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I was just suggesting that T and D would know about the technology. My very brief Google searches made me think that Glacier Pool in Arizona isn't very big and that their technology is blowing air on the water as it is pumped through in order to cause heat transfer, probably more efficient in areas like Arizona where the air is less humid. They also say that they can "accommodate" salt water pools, but the pump will need to be "washed off" every "couple of weeks. They have a one year warranty on their many sized pumps.


That made me wonder....hmmm. I hadn't heard of pool cooling and I am old but I do try to keep current. I like to understand the "science" of things. Perhaps someone here can explain how you cool a pool other than to blow air with a fan on the circulating water.

After having T and D in our yard the last couple of months installing a pool, I am in awe of their expertise and their high standards and would think they would know about pool cooling.
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I couldn't agree more. In the middle of the summer, the best time to swim laps is after a heavy rainfall as the pool temperature drops. The ability to reduce the temperature of the lap swimming pools would be most welcome.

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There are always going to be people who like it hot, and those who like it colder. Standard completive swimming pools are set right around 80 degrees. Thats for swimmers who do a serious aerobic workout which could easily be about 140 lengths of the sport pool per session, to put it in perspective. You can't imagine how it feels to do that type of workout in bathwater. The pools right now are average about 90 degrees. Its unhealthy to say the least. For those that want a gentle splashing around, there are tons of neighborhood pools to choose from which would not be chilled. The sports pools are supposed to be for the more serious athletes. It would be nice to have at least one pool in the Villages that was cooled to a reasonable degree. If people wanted to swim in hot water they would have many pools to choose from. Those who need cooler water for proper aerobic training would at least have one option, other than leaving the Villages and swimming in Gainesville.
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As I wrote here before, and after the very first link that showed mist systems along with other links and discussion later on commercial pool heat pump systems that reverse AND cool, the intent was not to tell the Rec. Dept. and District what they ought to buy, from whom, with whose accused demand for amenities fee increase to finance cooling, nor anything like that.

Again, here are various major manufacturer rep catalog pages online, that are ALL classified under heat pumps that reverse and cool.

Pool Heat Pumps and Chillers | PoolSupplyUnlimited.com

The second link I'll put is a specific example of one of many commercial Heat & Cool Pumps......

https://www.poolsupplyunlimited.com/...13734/140360p1

And, to correct what was misrepresented about info I posted before, which cites usage of these Heat & Cool commercial pumps in Orlando, Ft. Myers, and KEY WEST which are equally or more "humid" than here....Here is that industry news page again.

Swimming pool chillers are making a splash in hot markets -- PHOENIX, Feb. 20, 2013 /PRNewswire/ --

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Thank you for posting these links. When I started out looking at this issue I didn't realize how complex and technical it was. I wasn't aware of heat pumps that could both heat and cool pools. They seem like a great idea, similar to how we heat and cool our houses. I am glad that this issue has been discussed here on TOTV. I would never have thought of some of these options plus how to move ahead in communicating with the local governing bodies.
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By the time the governing bodies get around to discussing this topic the pool water will be cool once again.
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If you can't take the heat, stay out of the pool.
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By the time the governing bodies get around to discussing this topic the pool water will be cool once again.
Some of us like it that the governing bodies think ahead and gather information and plan for future replacement of older-technology pool heaters and pumps, by learning about newer/greener systems that would maintain the even normal pool water temperature, instead of fighting the extremes, like the high water temps that go on for the next three months, regardless of an unusual week like we just had.
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I can't see how this would be green. I am not a greenie, but I think sometimes we just can't get in a group, or use the facilities or it is too hot or too cold to do something. I have yet to get into a clay class.

But...there are other things to do. Sometimes we just have to adapt or wait a few days, or do cross training.
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One thing for danged sure, cooling a pool is NOT green.
Actually ,using a rooftop solar heat exchanger is considered green. It will heat your water in the winter for much less cost than either gas or heat pump, and it will cool your pool in the summer by running your filter pump at night.
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I'm done on this thread. It is too hot for sure. We are all inside arguing about dumb stuff.
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John W posted on the Indoor Pool thread about a new Fitness Club that will offer a 60 foot indoor swimming pool.
I assume it will be heated or cooled appropriately.
For only $19.95 per month per member, it might offer an alternative for the hot summer months.
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After our recent brief showers I can tell you that the water in our private pool is nice and refreshing again.I`ll even go as far as saying at first its a tad chilly when you get in.I can count on one hand the times where the water is NOT enjoyable.
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i have a solar heated home pool. Come summer I turn the solar-heated water valve to off, so that the heated water is diverted and does not go into my pool. Do the family and neighborhood pools lack this option? I suggest you ask the Rec. Center's manager. 🏊 🏊
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Too simple of a suggestion..............................
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