[pauld315]

If a snowbird is defined as somebody who owns a house here and comes down and uses it for 6 months a year, I have no complaint. I do complain about the renters (aka tourists) who come down and rent from a day to three months though. The Villages needs rental restrictions starting with a 3 or 6 month mimimum rental period like every other 55+ community I know of.

[Bruce3055]

Originally Posted by bsloan1960

Full-Timers are looking at the Snowbird population backwards. They aren't in TV clogging up everything for 1/2 a year- they are AWAY for 1/2 a year making things less crowed. If they were year round residents it would be crowed all the time. During the months they are away- and NOT using the amenities they are still Paying EVERY month. If they didn't pay while they were gone your amenity fees would possibly double. So, they pay year round, every month, and stay away freeing up space for half a year. Thank you Snowbirds.

Don’t forget all the businesses that can thrive because of the snowbirds

[Normal]

Originally Posted by Causey

I bought my first "second home" at age 25. I have enjoyed owning 3 different properties over the years that were not my primary residences. These second homes always cost more, but they have given me the flexibility to come and go as I please (I never rented any of them).
Now, at age 62, my primary residence is in TV, with a second home "up north" in New England.
I find it curious & amusing that most "full timers" in TV refer to Lady Lake as "up north". I guess they don't remember where they came from, not many (yes, there are exceptions) came from "down south".
In Northern New England, if you were not born and raised there, you are from "away", and not "one of them". Here you are called a "snowbird". Makes no difference where you are, someone will call you "something".
Big deal, why does anyone care what someone else calls them? Too many "thin skins" these days.

When I lived in Northern Michigan I was called a “yooper”, those below the bridge (Mackinac) were called “trolls”. The downside to having the better name was about 200 inches of snow.

[RICH1]

The new group to Pick on are AIRBNB Owners! The Snowbirds have enough money to support 2 households…Reading these postings in the hot summer sound empty , with no one to hate.. let’s all get along and hate the Spruce Creek residents who use our pools

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by pauld315

If a snowbird is defined as somebody who owns a house here and comes down and uses it for 6 months a year, I have no complaint. I do complain about the renters (aka tourists) who come down and rent from a day to three months though. The Villages needs rental restrictions starting with a 3 or 6 month mimimum rental period like every other 55+ community I know of.

Starting with 3 months?

We visited firends the first time we came down, then, the next year we rented (thru TV) for 2 months. During that time we bought our home...

So, according to you, we should have been required to rent "a minimum" of 3-6 months? Yeah, no...

[Laker14]

Originally Posted by bsloan1960

Full-Timers are looking at the Snowbird population backwards. They aren't in TV clogging up everything for 1/2 a year- they are AWAY for 1/2 a year making things less crowed. If they were year round residents it would be crowed all the time. During the months they are away- and NOT using the amenities they are still Paying EVERY month. If they didn't pay while they were gone your amenity fees would possibly double. So, they pay year round, every month, and stay away freeing up space for half a year. Thank you Snowbirds.

Thanks for having us. I feel sorry for anyone who decides never to come to TV based upon some of the vitriol displayed on TOTV. It misrepresents hugely the attitudes one actually encounters in the flesh here.

[Ele201]

Originally Posted by Pairadocs

Such wisdom and truth. Such a gracious attitude, a civil, MATURE response. Let's take a pole, do MOST people on here actually hate their neighbors who do not live here year round ? On our street, the homes are pretty good sized properties, yet, most of us (neighbors) really try to look after our part time neighbor's places, keep an eye open for anything that doesn't look 'normal", and keep their phone numbers and email addresses to alert them. Is this REALLY NOT the way most of you operate toward your neighbors who are not full-time ? Honestly, I guess I am very naive, really did believe most villages and neighborhoods treated their other neighbors the same ! ? Lot's of what ? Hate ? Jealously ? (that some folks can afford multiple homes maybe ?) Resentment ? (This might be "far out" but, do some folks resent that others have family, grands and great grands, and don't live here full time ? What is it in people that causes this linear type of thinking ?

Your post is thought provoking. There could be factors like jealousy or resentment at play. I mean let’s face it, anyone who can afford to maintain two homes is in a pretty fortunate position. It appears they have “the best of both worlds.”

In a broader sense, the pandemic brought this out. People who live in NYC for example, who have second homes were able to get away and avoid feeling cloistered and “stuck” in a small space. If you didn’t have that option, you just stuck it out until it was over.

Getting back to The Villages, and as you also mentioned, there’s the complicated factor of accessibility to kids/grandkids and yes even parents, as they get older and aren’t able to care for themselves. Anyway, who knows for sure what anyone else is thinking, but it was worth pondering.

[La lamy]

Thanks OP. You are absolutely correct!!!

[WesMan]

Don’t be concerned I’ll be back in February, see you then!!! 😊

[WesMan]

Originally Posted by bsloan1960

Full-Timers are looking at the Snowbird population backwards. They aren't in TV clogging up everything for 1/2 a year- they are AWAY for 1/2 a year making things less crowed. If they were year round residents it would be crowed all the time. During the months they are away- and NOT using the amenities they are still Paying EVERY month. If they didn't pay while they were gone your amenity fees would possibly double. So, they pay year round, every month, and stay away freeing up space for half a year. Thank you Snowbirds.

Don’t be concerned I’ll be back in February, see you then!!! 😊

[rsimpson]

Originally Posted by bsloan1960

Full-Timers are looking at the Snowbird population backwards. They aren't in TV clogging up everything for 1/2 a year- they are AWAY for 1/2 a year making things less crowed. If they were year round residents it would be crowed all the time. During the months they are away- and NOT using the amenities they are still Paying EVERY month. If they didn't pay while they were gone your amenity fees would possibly double. So, they pay year round, every month, and stay away freeing up space for half a year. Thank you Snowbirds.

You are Welcome.

[KPArnold]

In my unofficial recollection of “snowbird” complaints, the complainer often always jumps to the conclusion that anything that goes wrong is immediately assumed to be caused by a snowbird, since a full time resident is incapable of making mistakes. I find it difficult to believe that every infraction is a part time resident of TV. Yet whenever a cart driver behaves badly, parks poorly, is rude at a restaurant, have noisy grandkids visit, etc. that they must be snowbirds.
As a part time resident I doubt I am easily identified as such, but every time something gets reported here a snowbird is blamed. Do we have some identifying marks that make us easy to spot? If I move here full time do I gain some power of infallibility?

[MX rider]

Originally Posted by pauld315

If a snowbird is defined as somebody who owns a house here and comes down and uses it for 6 months a year, I have no complaint. I do complain about the renters (aka tourists) who come down and rent from a day to three months though. The Villages needs rental restrictions starting with a 3 or 6 month mimimum rental period like every other 55+ community I know of.

I tend to agree with you on short term rentals. Luckily we don't have many around us, but that could change.

There is one downside to longterm only, if the renter is an a** hole you're stuck with them for 3 months or more. lol

[Duppman]

Originally Posted by Veiragirl

snow birds taste like chicken

I'm told I would taste like old tough and stringy chicken.

[tombpot]

Adios