Talk of The Villages Florida - Rentals, Entertainment & More
Talk of The Villages Florida - Rentals, Entertainment & More
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One poster, in this thread or the other thread on this subject, said that the trash was still there. If so, the luggage disappeared before trash pick-up.
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It's not surprising that the Daily Sun would report this as an accidental pick-up by the garbage men. (that can't be proven one way or the other.) It sounds much better than reporting that there is possibly a thief roaming around the streets.
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Heaven help the person that wakes my dogs up early in the morning picking through my trash. I would assume that a burglar is on my property and react accordingly within the laws covering a man's right to protect his home and property. Unless i see a logo for a trash collection service on their clothes I will assume that they are there to rob my house, garage, etc. and act accordingly. I just love the blame the victim mentality. That always is the best way to approach crime. What is your take on someone who lives on a known fault line that has produced major earthquakes in the past but still refuses to move to another location and then dies because of it? See where your blame the victim logic can lead you? |
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Tbugs, having lived in California, I don't get the analogy. I've always thought that people who live directly on a fault line (think Modesto) are complete and total idiots. So, yes, I would blame the victim if they died because they chose to live on a known fault line.
In this case, I do believe the victim has to take some of the responsibility. If the luggage had been left outside by the garage door or the front door, then there would have been no question that it was not trash. However, if left by the end of driveway, it was basically saying it was there for the taking. It really is a common practice in TV to take items left at the end of the driveway -- whether trash day or not. Look back to posts here where people have been told to just leave old TVs, etc. out and they would be gone the next day. As to your attitude that you would have the right to shoot someone picking through your trash, good luck! I'm not too convinced you would have a leg to stand on a court of law, even in Florida.
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I think I may have missed a post here - was one removed? But in all honesty, when I read your post about protecting your property, I inferred the same as Dee - that you would go about protecting yourself from burglars with a weapon. I don't think we should blame the victim - but neither do I think that we can "blame" someone for our errors in judgment. We put a cup of hot coffee between our legs at the drive thru and when it spills - surprise! - we get burned!! Of course the big surprise was on the American consumer when the person who made a REALLY bad choice sued and won!
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garbage
Just think it was a mistake. Garbage pickers thats all. I have seen suitcases in garbage here before. Just common mistake. I have seen some real nice things thrown out here. They piced it up drove around with it .opened it later thats all. Would you really shoot someone going thru your garbage? Whoa Cowboy//////
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First, my apologies to Tbugs. Don't know why I thought it was his post. And, Vinny, I'd quote your post, but it seems to have disappeared, but your implication certainly made it seem that you would shoot.
There's a huge difference between living directly on a fault line, which is what you said and living on an island. Tsunamis are a risk, so are quakes, but they are not a given. Driving a car is a risk. Jumping off a high cliff to the rocks below is a given. A quake as strong as the one that occurred in the Pacific Ocean (not on Japan itself) is, fortunately, very rare. Japan does not get daily quakes. If you live on an active fault line, you do get daily or almost daily quakes. Look at the stats for the town of Modesto, California, they have periods where they get hourly quakes, albeit small ones most of the time. Sorry, I think you have to be nuts to live directly on a fault line or at the top of an active volcano. Leaving articles near the curb on trash day is a given that they will be picked up -- either by a gleaner or by the trash people.
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Another suitcase story.
Last month Sweetie flew back to Ohio for business and had one night to stay in our house, was dropped off by co-workers late and was to be picked up by them early.
At around six in the morning, he put his laptop and carryon on the sidewalk in front of our home and went back in to turn on security and check locks. He returned to six police cars and officers shouting for him to put his hands up. Our neighbors are really nosy. Thank heavens. |
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Nosy neighbors are nice to have in instances like that! Bill |
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By all means
Yes, you basically have to portion responsibility to the victim here. While we may feel sorry for the loss, it would not have happened if normal care would have been applied.
What is this about "pickers" or "gleaners"? I have never noticed anyone like that in The Villages? Why wouldn't someone contact Community Watch about that? Don't give me a line about Community Watch not having any authority. They have standing orders to contact the police when unauthorized vendors, beggers, etc, are in The Villages. I seriously doubt if the bags were stolen - especially from a villa community. It was just an accident that proved to be costly for the lady. |
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TBugs,
I have never seen a picker or a gleaner - unless you could some Villagers driving around on trash day - frequently in carts - looking for treasures... k
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fault line
I think redwitch is wrong in blaming people who live on a fault line if something bad happens. This type of thinking does not belong in the Villages IMHO
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If this was just an accident or a mistake, she should have heard from them by now. Since there was paperwork inside (plus you're supposed to put your identification inside luggage in case it gets lost and the tags get pulled off the outside), once opened whoever took them should have realized that they were not fair game.
BTW, maybe the basketball was deflated.
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I just put out my trash for Friday pickup. It's 5 p.m. In the trash I put a small flatscreen TV that doesn't work and isn't worth fixing. 10 minute later, it was gone.
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