[janet8651]

i like the plan - put up or shut up.

[RosemarySoso]

Although a bit bizarre, I don’t see it as obnoxious. Antibodies are the answer either from vaccines or naturally. I’m healthy but not willing to put myself out there.

[dwbevan]

Some how many people did not get you choose #1???

[speedo8357]

Originally Posted by soniak4@gmail.com

Exactly which civil rights have you given up? Just answer that one question.

Freedom to practice my religion and also a violation of freedom of assembly clause. To name a few. I understand people’s fear of a disease, but what of their ability to work and provide for their families. $1200 Checks from the government are not going to keep coming.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by speedo8357

Freedom to practice my religion and also a violation of freedom of assembly clause. To name a few. I understand people’s fear of a disease, but what of their ability to work and provide for their families. $1200 Checks from the government are not going to keep coming.

This is a very complicated problem and even if the country would reopen right now, we still face financial disaster. AND it isn't "fear of a disease" for many of us living in The Villages. The death rate of people over 80 who contract Covid-19 is 14%.

I see your complaint about "Freedom to practice my religion" as not valid and very trumped up. I have heard of only ONE church leader in Florida who insisted on holding church services with the social distancing ADVICE in place. Do you not think that an omnipotent creator would understand compassion for others by social distancing??

[JoMar]

Originally Posted by speedo8357

Freedom to practice my religion and also a violation of freedom of assembly clause. To name a few. I understand people’s fear of a disease, but what of their ability to work and provide for their families. $1200 Checks from the government are not going to keep coming.

You still have your freedom to practice your religion and you have the freedome of assembly clause. Where did you observe that was taken from you?

[DianeM]

Originally Posted by speedo8357

Freedom to practice my religion and also a violation of freedom of assembly clause. To name a few. I understand people’s fear of a disease, but what of their ability to work and provide for their families. $1200 Checks from the government are not going to keep coming.

No one took away your freedom of religion. You can practice your faith anywhere. You don’t need a building to pray.

No one took away your freedom of assembly. You can gather in small groups but appropriately spaced.

The $1200 is to stimulate the economy so that people in the service sector can remain employed.

[aa1949a]

Originally Posted by skarra

I understand there is a lot of frustration at staying at home, and some wonder is it worth it? i.e. is the cure worse than the disease, and is it worth giving up our civil liberties?

Here's my idea on making everyone happy. If I were President I would propose the following starting May 1st -

1. People who are compromised or don't feel they wish to play Russian roulette - stay at home like you have been doing already. They will need to stock up on TP, and keep watching Netflix etc. for the entire month of May.

2. For the others who do not fear the virus because they are young, healthy, or just feel immune to it all - we setup Covid-19 stations and beginning May 1st they line up to get their dose of infection. They need to be infected because by May 31st, they will get a card that says they are now immune and can now do whatever they want from that point on - go to parks, go to restaurants and bars (populated with like minded people), get back to work and even visit beaches - they will have all their freedoms back because they can not spread anything. It will be a small price to pay (1% or 2% deaths), but that is what Darwinism is all about. And if they really are strong, there's nothing to worry about.


Now the "participants" have to get infected beginning May 1st because we need to know for certain by May 31st that they had it and survived with immunity. After that they can either enjoy life, or do useful community service for the rest of the people still stuck at home by doing gardening and home delivery of groceries and restaurant orders. Maybe we pay them people $600 per week until they discover a vaccine for everyone else. The big plus is that the folk in 2. will have contributed to herd immunity and they will forever go down as heroes. (statues in every park?) For people in group 1., they will wait a little longer for the vaccine and with so many of the herd now "neutralized" they will not need to worry so much about making the occasional trip outside.

What do you think? Who's ready to start lining up for their dose of Covid-19 beginning May 1st?

I think this solves all the problems ... that's what all this walking has done to me. Given me time to solve the worlds problems.

You can get the virus more then once, it was on the news today. Back tongue drawing board.

Flash you can get the virus more then once. Was on the news today. Back to the drawing board.

[anothersteve]

Originally Posted by skarra

I understand there is a lot of frustration at staying at home, and some wonder is it worth it? i.e. is the cure worse than the disease, and is it worth giving up our civil liberties?

Here's my idea on making everyone happy. If I were President I would propose the following starting May 1st -

1. People who are compromised or don't feel they wish to play Russian roulette - stay at home like you have been doing already. They will need to stock up on TP, and keep watching Netflix etc. for the entire month of May.

2. For the others who do not fear the virus because they are young, healthy, or just feel immune to it all - we setup Covid-19 stations and beginning May 1st they line up to get their dose of infection. They need to be infected because by May 31st, they will get a card that says they are now immune and can now do whatever they want from that point on - go to parks, go to restaurants and bars (populated with like minded people), get back to work and even visit beaches - they will have all their freedoms back because they can not spread anything. It will be a small price to pay (1% or 2% deaths), but that is what Darwinism is all about. And if they really are strong, there's nothing to worry about.


Now the "participants" have to get infected beginning May 1st because we need to know for certain by May 31st that they had it and survived with immunity. After that they can either enjoy life, or do useful community service for the rest of the people still stuck at home by doing gardening and home delivery of groceries and restaurant orders. Maybe we pay them people $600 per week until they discover a vaccine for everyone else. The big plus is that the folk in 2. will have contributed to herd immunity and they will forever go down as heroes. (statues in every park?) For people in group 1., they will wait a little longer for the vaccine and with so many of the herd now "neutralized" they will not need to worry so much about making the occasional trip outside.

What do you think? Who's ready to start lining up for their dose of Covid-19 beginning May 1st?

I think this solves all the problems ... that's what all this walking has done to me. Given me time to solve the worlds problems.

A lot's to be said for posting in the right forum, try it sometime.
And since this is a somewhat serious forum you posted in, I will just say thank God you are not my President.
Steve

[pcacace]

Sorry, but I don’t agree with people getting infected intentionally. compromised people should stay home for a while. Keep the groups down to a small size. I’m playing Pickleball at a secret location so my sanity is still in tack. We haven’t moved into our village home yet since the villages is like a ghost town. Stay well!

[Blackbird45]

Both Conservatives and Liberals have to come to the realization that testing everyone is not a reality.
Either there not enough testing supplies available or labs cannot handle that type of volume.

If the federal government believes we should restart the economy.
At the very least they should make sure every pharmacy in the country has enough protective supplies on their shelves to satisfy the physical and emotional needs of the American people.
This should be as convenient as buying a pack of gum.

You have to remember we’re asking for people to risk their lives.

[Joanne19335]

Originally Posted by gpsma

#reopen now

#absolutelynot

[stan the man]

Stay closed = at least till Christmas

[Jazzman]

And the overwhelming majority are financially secure. Not so for those currently unemployed.

[baramu]

She does jest. Not meant it seriously.