[xkeowner]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Sir/Madam. I don't know how old you are, but it is not good to be inside a building with people not wearing masks. It is extremely dangerous for those who are over 65. We have learned mail is NOT a problem or a worry as a source of transfer. We do not eat out and have not eaten out since the early part of March when two close friends went with a group of ten to celebrate St. Patrick's day and the waitress had cold like symptoms. Six out of the ten contracted Covid-19 here in The Villages. One friend was in Ocala Hospital for ten days intubated. Her sister became so sick that someone had to take care of her at home and then she had to be transferred to the hospital and rehydrated.

Now that the Covid-19 virus from England is here, that version is EXTREMELY more contagious, not more deadly but more contagious. We do have the hope of the availability of blood serum from those who survived the virus and of course the vaccine is slowly becoming available to us. It is wise to be very careful now. There is light at the end of the tunnel, but the cases and the deaths have greatly increased in the last seven days around HERE.

The virus lives in the nasal oral cavity of those infected and they may show no symptoms. To older people, death is usually brought by pneumonia or some form of unusual clotting. And as you know, you die without the solace of any loved ones present. This is not ANYTHING TO MESS WITH.

Rarely do I take exception to, or even comment on, a Gracie post. In this case, I believe the impact to those near to her have understandably slanted her opinion. If I am in Walmart near the pharmacy and someone with COVID is in the frozen food section I don't believe being in the same building is a significant threat. We are both over seventy, over weight and along with her 95 year old mother have been eating out 5-7 meals a week in restaurants since restaurants reopened at 25% occupancy. We never wear what a subsequent poster describes as face diapers in restaurants. We do social distance as much as we can.

As of yesterday, 2,821 villagers have been identified as COVID positive or only approximately 2% of The Villages residents. The survival rate if you do get COVID is approximately 98%. That equates to a 0.04% of dying from COVID. We like the odds!

Take the precautions you feel are appropriate for your situation, but we refuse to accept the concept of a "new normal" and don't feel obligated to accommodate the paranoia of others at the expense of a "normal" lifestyle.

[Neils]

Originally Posted by UpNorth

The only mask that can filter out the tiny size of the Coronavirus is a N95 mask - the type used by health care professionals. The face diapers you see people wearing will not. If wearing a face diaper makes you feel better, just do it. But don't expect it to be much help.

Dr Dr
The face diapers do help prevent YOU from contaminating others by blowing contaminated air with large particles out from your mouth or nose while speaking.
Thats why everyone is asked to wear them. To protect others.

Thanks for wearing yours. We all appreciate it.

[Neils]

Originally Posted by xkeowner

Rarely do I take exception to, or even comment on, a Gracie post. In this case, I believe the impact to those near to her have understandably slanted her opinion. If I am in Walmart near the pharmacy and someone with COVID is in the frozen food section I don't believe being in the same building is a significant threat. We are both over seventy, over weight and along with her 95 year old mother have been eating out 5-7 meals a week in restaurants since restaurants reopened at 25% occupancy. We never wear what a subsequent poster describes as face diapers in restaurants. We do social distance as much as we can.

As of yesterday, 2,821 villagers have been identified as COVID positive or only approximately 2% of The Villages residents. The survival rate if you do get COVID is approximately 98%. That equates to a 0.04% of dying from COVID. We like the odds!

Take the precautions you feel are appropriate for your situation, but we refuse to accept the concept of a "new normal" and don't feel obligated to accommodate the paranoia of others at the expense of a "normal" lifestyle.

So far I lost 3 family members to Covid. Ages 66, 73, 80.
The % game did not help them.
Please be careful everyone.

[jswirs]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Sir/Madam. I don't know how old you are, but it is not good to be inside a building with people not wearing masks. It is extremely dangerous for those who are over 65. We have learned mail is NOT a problem or a worry as a source of transfer. We do not eat out and have not eaten out since the early part of March when two close friends went with a group of ten to celebrate St. Patrick's day and the waitress had cold like symptoms. Six out of the ten contracted Covid-19 here in The Villages. One friend was in Ocala Hospital for ten days intubated. Her sister became so sick that someone had to take care of her at home and then she had to be transferred to the hospital and rehydrated.

Now that the Covid-19 virus from England is here, that version is EXTREMELY more contagious, not more deadly but more contagious. We do have the hope of the availability of blood serum from those who survived the virus and of course the vaccine is slowly becoming available to us. It is wise to be very careful now. There is light at the end of the tunnel, but the cases and the deaths have greatly increased in the last seven days around HERE.

The virus lives in the nasal oral cavity of those infected and they may show no symptoms. To older people, death is usually brought by pneumonia or some form of unusual clotting. And as you know, you die without the solace of any loved ones present. This is not ANYTHING TO MESS WITH.

This debate will never be settled. There will always be folks that refuse to wear a mask and complaining about it will change nothing. If you are that concerned then don't go out, stay inside your own house. Worrying and complaining will solve nothing.

[jack.hunter00@yahoo.com]

I just quit one of the shops because 70% of those coming in would not wear a mask. I asked an individual coming in if he could put a mask on and he went nuts. Long story short that was my last customer as this was my last customer. I really enjoyed working at the CC but my health is more important. It's a shame that so many people here could care less about their neighbors.

[Rylee]

I am usually at Tierra one or two times a week. Have always seen employees wearing a mask.

[sdeikenberry]

Originally Posted by UpNorth

The only mask that can filter out the tiny size of the Coronavirus is a N95 mask - the type used by health care professionals. The face diapers you see people wearing will not. If wearing a face diaper makes you feel better, just do it. But don't expect it to be much help.

Respectfully, you are incorrect. While COVID is very small, it travels by attaching to a larger particle. Those larger particles are captured by a "face diaper" as you put it. It drives me nuts when people like you choose to cherry pick facts to prove a point you wish to promote. Good grief...wearing masks protects others more than yourself. It's perfectly reasonable to expect golf shop staff to wear a mask.

[Rwirish]

Mask are requested not required. The staff is following their own guidelines.

[richs631]

Originally Posted by Tennisnut

Although there is a request for patrons to the Tierra del Sol golf shop to wear a mask prior to entry, staff do not follow this recommendation. I have played there a couple of times and the same staff member has failed to wear a mask. A small shop with hundreds of entries by patrons, I would think this would be prime example for policy compliance. With the publicity in the local newspaper and postings on entry, this policy is not being followed at this venue. Enter at your own risk.

Another mask thread. IF YOU DONT LIKE IT STAY HOME! IF YOUR AFRAID STAY HOME! Stop worrying about everyone else

[Astron]

Originally Posted by UpNorth

The only mask that can filter out the tiny size of the Coronavirus is a N95 mask - the type used by health care professionals. The face diapers you see people wearing will not. If wearing a face diaper makes you feel better, just do it. But don't expect it to be much help.

Before making possible life threatening statements on a public forum, perhaps a little research from trusted medical sources is indicated. COVID-19: How much protection do face masks offer? - Mayo Clinic

[Jazzman]

Originally Posted by sdeikenberry

Respectfully, you are incorrect. While COVID is very small, it travels by attaching to a larger particle. Those larger particles are captured by a "face diaper" as you put it. It drives me nuts when people like you choose to cherry pick facts to prove a point you wish to promote. Good grief...wearing masks protects others more than yourself. It's perfectly reasonable to expect golf shop staff to wear a mask.

I’ve played and paid at the Tierra del Sol many times and occasionally the staff person behind the counter does not have a mask on but hanging from his ear. Maybe he scratched his nose and forgot to put it back on, but then again if your wearing a mask your chances of getting infected are extremely minimal not to mention the fact that when you pay for the round you are about three feet away from the staff person at a minimum. The same poster who started this thread I would bet doesn’t play with a mask on and doesn’t maintain a minimum of six feet from other players in his group at all times. When all this is over and under control you’ll start to see validated studies that will refute some of the opinions, and that’s what they are, of many professional and non professional individuals.

[richs631]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Sir/Madam. I don't know how old you are, but it is not good to be inside a building with people not wearing masks. It is extremely dangerous for those who are over 65. We have learned mail is NOT a problem or a worry as a source of transfer. We do not eat out and have not eaten out since the early part of March when two close friends went with a group of ten to celebrate St. Patrick's day and the waitress had cold like symptoms. Six out of the ten contracted Covid-19 here in The Villages. One friend was in Ocala Hospital for ten days intubated. Her sister became so sick that someone had to take care of her at home and then she had to be transferred to the hospital and rehydrated.

Now that the Covid-19 virus from England is here, that version is EXTREMELY more contagious, not more deadly but more contagious. We do have the hope of the availability of blood serum from those who survived the virus and of course the vaccine is slowly becoming available to us. It is wise to be very careful now. There is light at the end of the tunnel, but the cases and the deaths have greatly increased in the last seven days around HERE.

The virus lives in the nasal oral cavity of those infected and they may show no symptoms. To older people, death is usually brought by pneumonia or some form of unusual clotting. And as you know, you die without the solace of any loved ones present. This is not ANYTHING TO MESS WITH.

Stop watching the news folks. You would think that Covid only attacks small businesses and not big box stores. Think logically folks

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Astron

Before making possible life threatening statements on a public forum, perhaps a little research from trusted medical sources is indicated. COVID-19: How much protection do face masks offer? - Mayo Clinic

Did you actually read the article you cited????? It dealt exclusively with different kinds of masks preventing the spread of COVID to others, nothing about any protective value to the wearer. Some masks MAY help protect the wearer in SPECIFIC situations. (driving alone in your car is not one of them)

[Girlcopper]

Originally Posted by Tennisnut

Although there is a request for patrons to the Tierra del Sol golf shop to wear a mask prior to entry, staff do not follow this recommendation. I have played there a couple of times and the same staff member has failed to wear a mask. A small shop with hundreds of entries by patrons, I would think this would be prime example for policy compliance. With the publicity in the local newspaper and postings on entry, this policy is not being followed at this venue. Enter at your own risk.

And here we are on the mask soap box again. This topic has been beat to death. No masks bothers you? Dont go. You want to complain? Then complain to them. But I think others patronizing the place see no masks also and can make their own decisions and dont have to be warned to BEWARE

[walterray1]

On and on it goes. Two sides to this debate and cant agree. How are we going to agree on the bigger things happening?