[looneycat]

Originally Posted by Villager Joyce

I agreed with you until I got to your sentence about getting along. Just reading this thread will prove that is not true. I believe it was on a Twilight Zone episode that the curator of another planet said--as long as there is man, there will be no peace.
What floored me is any person from anywhere can complain. Several of my neighbors have beautiful flower beds with ornamentals scattered beautifully throughout the garden. I would hate for someone who is out looking for something to complain about to squash their enthusiasm and cause them to stop gardening.

you're missing the point, you signed the deed restrictions..for example, if they were deed laws, the same action would be criminal...a bit extreme but the same principle. in this case the restrictions take taste out of the equation. certainly there is enough beautiful flora to be found to beautify your lawn

[Villager Joyce]

I bow out.

[drcar]

I posted this tread to open a discussion, and it did. Most of the people missed the point, the point wasn't good or bad lawn ornaments. The point is the "troll patrol," making rounds in villages just to create problems. I would never dispute the fact that the said items are against the deed. My problem is when a person, either a villager, or outsider can create a stir and send paid staff out to do VERY tough jobs. I will say again the worker who came to my street was very nice and understanding. My issue is not with the deed enforcement, but with the person who takes it on themselves to make waves. I do find it funny that I can not have a sand hill crane statue in my front yard but I CAN have a clothes line!!!!

[TrudyM]

I personally love the metal cranes etc., but am glad of the restrictions as yards with large gaudy displays bother me and you can't have one without the other. I agree that maybe a more defined rule needs to be in place so there would be less violators.
I was under the impression that American flags were allowed as I see flag poles all over. Plus I thought I read someplace that although the size of the flag and placement may be restricted but flying the colors is a right of all US citizens and can not be prohibited.
I bought in Tamarind grove but left all the rules stuff in the house when I went back to Wa so can't check right now. Can someone tell me if it is only the front yard that has rules and if so how does that work as some houses back yards back to streets.

[skip0358]

What I don't like is we have to turn in each other because they're complaint driven. I too was turned in and after a discussion mine was not a violation and could stay. What I don't agree with is why my front yard has to be free of violations because it faces the road, when a backyard that faces the roadway can look like a junkyard. Before you ask that came from Deed Compliance Officers mouth. I'll bet IF we had a true deed compliance officer
not very many homes and or yards would pass IF the rules were enforced the way they're written. Everyone should re read them and then look around even at your own yard. JMO
I think it goes like"People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones"

[drcar]

Originally Posted by skip0358

What I don't like is we have to turn in each other because they're complaint driven. I too was turned in and after a discussion mine was not a violation and could stay. What I don't agree with is why my front yard has to be free of violations because it faces the road, when a backyard that faces the roadway can look like a junkyard. Before you ask that came from Deed Compliance Officers mouth. I'll bet IF we had a true deed compliance officer
not very many homes and or yards would pass IF the rules were enforced the way they're written. Everyone should re read them and then look around even at your own yard. JMO
I think it goes like"People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones"

[janmcn]

Originally Posted by drcar

I posted this tread to open a discussion, and it did. Most of the people missed the point, the point wasn't good or bad lawn ornaments. The point is the "troll patrol," making rounds in villages just to create problems. I would never dispute the fact that the said items are against the deed. My problem is when a person, either a villager, or outsider can create a stir and send paid staff out to do VERY tough jobs. I will say again the worker who came to my street was very nice and understanding. My issue is not with the deed enforcement, but with the person who takes it on themselves to make waves. I do find it funny that I can not have a sand hill crane statue in my front yard but I CAN have a clothes line!!!!

The clothes line issue is a state law and takes precedence over deed restrictions.

[drcar]

Originally Posted by janmcn

The clothes line issue is a state law and takes precedence over deed restrictions.

LOL, I know, I just find it funny!

[JoMar]

Originally Posted by DruannB

May yard ornaments be placed in the back yard if they can't be seen from the front? I ask because we haven't bought yet. I'm just thinking of my one iron sculpture of a rescue worker. He is currently saving my dogs from drowning in our pond (figuratively). Should I plan on finding him a good home?

You can put it out until someone complains. As someone who has lived here a long time told me, "the inside of your house is yours, the outside belongs to everyone" His point was that the density here makes it almost impossible for the houses not to impact their neighbors or the neighborhoods.

[Challenger]

Im sure that those who wre upset will not like this post, however, all real property purchasers in TV should have known what things were prohibited in their village. Covenents and restrictions are recorded in county property records. Zoning ordinances are public documents. There should be no mystery about the "rules"

I live in Tamarind Grove and commented to my wife several months ago that many of the properties here were violating the rules and some streets were becoming "tacky". Suddenly the infractions disappeared. I wondered if someone had finally complained.

I for one , like the rules, and when I see infractions, I have from time to time regestered complaints. Especially annoying are religious signs in many yards during the holidays. Sesonal decorations are acceptable for a limited period. Signs , however. are signs and as such are violations. Slippery slopes abound.

This thread reminds me of those who get traffic ticket and then trash the police for enforcing rules.

Ignoring the rules is an offense to those of us who have moved here because such rules exist. Our rights are essentually contractural and the contract is being violated.

[Carl in Tampa]

Originally Posted by TheVillageChicken

What happens if one tells the villages rep to pound sand?

If you fail to comply then the HOA can assess a fine and file a lien against your property to compel payment.

[wereback]

I really feel we should all get behind Challengers post as he has stated what we all signed and now so many want to do what ever they want.

[Warren Kiefer]

[QUOTE=drcar;1056265]Whats valid, I guess they are if you want to say so, BUT we are talking about small, and I mean small statues, about 8 inches high. Yes I know what the rules state, BUT these people are looking for problems! One person was informed that the flat stepping stones had to be removed because they had words on them!!!![/QUO

At what point does one obey the rules??

[wereback]

No where in our deed papers does it say a little statue is okay

[Carl in Tampa]

Originally Posted by Bosoxfan

I was just on the district.org website .Nowhere is there a way to see these emails.

You must go to the District Office in person and file a Sunshine Law request in order to see the complaints, which are a public record.