[Fredster]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

According to your stats.............4% of the populations are alcoholics and 20% of all suicides are alcoholics. This tells me the alcoholics in the US, as a percentage, are going down.

Interesting.

That would be great, but I'm not sure what the total figures would be if
Opioids, abused RX's and other mind altering chemicals were included.

[Erika]

Originally Posted by Gpsma

Gracie....why would someone not invite you just because you don't drink? But then again the worst thing is a drunk around sober people or someone sober around a bunch of drunks.

I have had friends who owned bars and restaurants. They have always been reluctant to cut off drunks unless they are falling down or causing trouble. In reality, if you serve someone 3 or 4 drinks they are probably "legally" drunk. If they can handle their booze no bar owner is going to cut off a paying customer. They probably would just find another bar

In many states it is a criminal offense for the bartender to continue serving a customer who is obviously drunk. The bartender and restaurant owner are also liable if the inebriated patron leaves the bar and is involved in a car accident. When you state that "no bar owner is going to cut off a paying customer" he or she should think of the potential civil suit and incarceration if s/he is convicted.Mothers Against Drunk Drivers have been very successful in pursuing states to adopt such laws against bartenders etc. who serve one too many to a patron. Losing one's child to a drunk driver is one of the most horrific things that life
can throw your way.

[BK001]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

In Is Tavern a The There Cox Town-Wally - Bing video

Big Belly Laugh you Damsel Dark LOL Altogether now, "There is a Tavern in the Town, in the town ..."

I guess this will be today's "ear worm"! Thank you very much. LOL

[jsw14]

Hmmm, I wounder how many would show-up if TOTV has there Meet & Greet in a place where they sell Beer & Alcohol..? It might just be a Full House.....

[rubicon]

Originally Posted by Fredster

I really have trouble understanding how they don't relate.
You said the topic is too many DUI's (DWI's)
well those are given to people who've drunk too much alcohol.
So you are going to get a lot of opinions on alcohol.
Personally, I believe if a person gets one or two DUI's there is a pretty good chance they
have a serious alcohol problem that they'd be wise to address!
Clarify your last sentence...I read it that you believe that even a person
who drinks responsibly should never drive at all.

Fredster:

My only point is that some posters were carrying the subject matter to the moral question of using alcohol (period) Mine was a clarification that drinking and driving is a fatal mixture.

As to my last sentence . there are many people who have a low tolerance for alcohol and can actually be impaired with a drink or two. Heck i have a glass of wine often with my meals at home and have on occasion with a half wine glass of wine got a buzz...much to my surprise. Ergo the safest measure is don't drink and drive and if something unfortunate happens and blood-alcohol is tested the driver will pass with flying colors.

[Gpsma]

Originally Posted by Erika

In many states it is a criminal offense for the bartender to continue serving a customer who is obviously drunk. The bartender and restaurant owner are also liable if the inebriated patron leaves the bar and is involved in a car accident. When you state that "no bar owner is going to cut off a paying customer" he or she should think of the potential civil suit and incarceration if s/he is convicted.Mothers Against Drunk Drivers have been very successful in pursuing states to adopt such laws against bartenders etc. who serve one too many to a patron. Losing one's child to a drunk driver is one of the most horrific things that life
can throw your way.

Most bartenders dont care about the law or potential liability....they just are interested in tips.

The bar/restaurant owners simply shield themselves with insurance and corporation status. My friends that own bars arent even on the paperwork. Others are on the liquor license and corporation papers.

I guess that would not apply to large organizations like TGIF.

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by Gpsma

Most bartenders dont care about the law or potential liability....they just are interested in tips.

George Jones, Bartender Blues Bartender's Blues - George Jones - YouTube

[graciegirl]

youtube, it's a quarter 'til three and no one in the place except you and me - Bing video

[sallybowron]

Originally Posted by Gpsma

Gracie....why would someone not invite you just because you don't drink? But then again the worst thing is a drunk around sober people or someone sober around a bunch of drunks.

I have had friends who owned bars and restaurants. They have always been reluctant to cut off drunks unless they are falling down or causing trouble. In reality, if you serve someone 3 or 4 drinks they are probably "legally" drunk. If they can handle their booze no bar owner is going to cut off a paying customer. They probably would just find another bar

My brother owns a bar in Cincinnati. When he realizes a person is drunk he tells them he is calling a cab for them. More times than not they take the cab home. Thank God he has had no one have a drunk driving complication. I don't drink or smoke either Gracie but I do find it a little hard to converse with a really drunk person, they keep spitting as they speak! Yukky

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by sallybowron

I don't drink or smoke either Gracie but I do find it a little hard to converse with a really drunk person, they keep spitting as they speak! Yukky

Those who chew also spit, drunk or not, ugh!

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

Those who chew also spit, drunk or not, ugh!

We all seem to have found the lowest common denominator today.

I blame that damn Irma out there........

waiting.

[jsw14]

Labor Day weekend is here. Dollar General has Busch Beer for $7.95 an 18 pack.. What a Great deal... Ya'll have a nice Holiday....

[Chi-Town]

Originally Posted by jsw14

Labor Day weekend is here. Dollar General has Busch Beer for $7.95 an 18 pack.. What a Great deal... Ya'll have a nice Holiday....

Busch Beer and Dollar General. Perfect supplier/seller combination.

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