[Heytubes]

I laugh and shake my head when making a right hand turn from Morse while going northbound onto 466 from the right hand lane (outside lane) onto the right hand lane (outside lane) of 466 while a southbound driver on Morse makes a left turn onto the outside lane of 466 instead of the inside lane and lays down on their horn. Guess they missed that page in the driver’s manual.

[VApeople]

Originally Posted by Heytubes

I laugh and shake my head when making a right hand turn from Morse while going northbound onto 466 from the right hand lane (outside lane) onto the right hand lane (outside lane) of 466 while a southbound driver on Morse makes a left turn onto the outside lane of 466 instead of the inside lane and lays down on their horn. Guess they missed that page in the driver’s manual.

Do you both have green lights when this happens? If so, you have the right-of-way and he should stop and not turn left.

If the driver going south on Morse has a green light to turn left and you have a red light, you need to STOP and let the other driver have the right-of-way.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Happydaz

Maybe you don’t drive east towards the Trailwinds development on 466A and Wildwood as well as onto 462 or Powell Road. There has been a significant increase in traffic over the last three years. The increased number of accidents at the intersection of 466A and Buena Vista May be an indication of that. If you go west towards Fruitland Park I can see your point that traffic may not have increased.

I've been to the Lowes @ Trailwinds multiple times (too much on the "Honey do" list), gone to First Watch, and the new Car Wash in the last several weeks, driving from Morse to Trailwinds and 301...

Went to Darrel's @ Pinellas twice. I use 301 & Powell road often and the only time I've seen significant traffic was when a train came by... (or evening rush hour going south on 301)...

P.S. You've got your East & West backwards...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Garywt

I have yet to see any real traffic in the Villages. 5 deep at a traffic light does not constitute traffic.

Originally Posted by justjim

Spot on. Take a drive around Orlando, Tampa, Naples or Fort Myers this time of year and you will see traffic.

Originally Posted by CFrance

I drive that route almost every day (Tamarind Grove Run to St. Charles to Buena Vista to 466A to left on Powell to Huey and the Wildwood dog park). We've lived here since 2012. I see some uptake in the traffic in that area in the last few years. If there's more traffic on 466A between Buena Vista and Powell, though, I would attribute most of it to the new shopping center at Trailwinds. That used to be a cattle field.
The traffic in The Villages is nothing compared to the places we have lived before. I guess it's a matter of perspective.

[Get real]

and yet people still drive slow in the left lane causing road rage.

[tvbound]

Originally Posted by VApeople

Do you both have green lights when this happens? If so, you have the right-of-way and he should stop and not turn left.

If the driver going south on Morse has a green light to turn left and you have a red light, you need to STOP and let the other driver have the right-of-way.

"If the driver going south on Morse has a green light to turn left and you have a red light, you need to STOP and let the other driver have the right-of-way."



You are absolutely correct and is a big pet peeve of mine.

If I am making a left hand turn with a green arrow (not just a green light) and an opposing driver is making a right-on-red, expect me to be one of those people laying on the horn for the ignorant/self-important person...making that right hand turn against those with a green turn arrow. And yes, I know that I am required to turn left into the left hand lane (if there's two lanes), but why in the world would the right hand turning driver think that their action is OK? Particularly when the left turning person has no idea, if the right hand turning person coming at them, actually understands traffic laws and will stay in the right hand lane after turning? Other than having an 'entitlement/I'm more important than you' attitude - that is.

They are also likely to be the same types who drive the speed limit in the left lane, as traffic builds up behind them.

[wayneman]

Originally Posted by justjim

Spot on. Take a drive around Orlando, Tampa, Naples or Fort Myers this time of year and you will see traffic.

Exactly, recently went to Orlando, had to get on I-4. Didn’t think i was going to make it out. Crazy traffic, with even crazier drivers.

[Marathon Man]

Originally Posted by Happydaz

Traffic is much worse than last year especially around the southern part of the Villages. Roads that used to be low traffic like 466A, Buena Vista and Morse are now more crowded than prior years. I avoid driving if I can. Change is one thing, rapid, unremitting expansion is another.

Perhaps your dislike of the southern growth is skewing your perception of traffic.

[Regorp]

Originally Posted by Michael G.

A lot has been written about traffic in the past on various roads, streets, and round abouts, and not only snow bird season etc.etc.

But one needs to ask:

Do you think this year the traffic around central Florida and the villages sucks?

It's getting so bad that if the sun is out, stay home from running your weekly errands.

The worst traffic has to be on 301, south of 44. Every afternoon a parking lot. Future plans call for expanding the lanes to a 4 way, but 2 years away. Snowbirds make it worse.

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by Regorp

The worst traffic has to be on 301, south of 44. Every afternoon a parking lot. Future plans call for expanding the lanes to a 4 way, but 2 years away. Snowbirds make it worse.

I think it’s the full timers that make it worse, if they would leave the traffic would be much better.

[VApeople]

Originally Posted by Aces4

I think it’s the full timers that make it worse, if they would leave the traffic would be much better.

That's funny!

If everyone were full timers, we would never have bad traffic. It would be the same all year long.

[togabill]

Originally Posted by Happydaz

Traffic is much worse than last year especially around the southern part of the Villages. Roads that used to be low traffic like 466A, Buena Vista and Morse are now more crowded than prior years. I avoid driving if I can. Change is one thing, rapid, unremitting expansion is another.

Agree!

[Michael G.]

Originally Posted by VApeople

If everyone were full timers, we would never have bad traffic. It would be the same all year long.

Yes, less traffic.

[NewRealms]

Michael, this is season, high season in central FL where snowbirds come to roost. It is the time for locals to hibernate, just like bears do. Everything takes longer to get to and lines are long in stores. It's the price we pay for 7 1/2 months of peaceful bliss. ;-)

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by tvbound

"If the driver going south on Morse has a green light to turn left and you have a red light, you need to STOP and let the other driver have the right-of-way."



You are absolutely correct and is a big pet peeve of mine.

If I am making a left hand turn with a green arrow (not just a green light) and an opposing driver is making a right-on-red, expect me to be one of those people laying on the horn for the ignorant/self-important person...making that right hand turn against those with a green turn arrow. And yes, I know that I am required to turn left into the left hand lane (if there's two lanes), but why in the world would the right hand turning driver think that their action is OK? Particularly when the left turning person has no idea, if the right hand turning person coming at them, actually understands traffic laws and will stay in the right hand lane after turning? Other than having an 'entitlement/I'm more important than you' attitude - that is.

They are also likely to be the same types who drive the speed limit in the left lane, as traffic builds up behind them.

From the Florida Driver's License Handbook:
"Finish your turn in the proper lane. A right turn should be from the right lane into the right lane of the roadway entered. A left turn may be completed in any lane lawfully available, or safe, for the desired direction of travel. See the diagrams for making left turns from or into one-way streets."


If I'm reading this correctly, it seems like when turning left onto a four-lane road, you can turn into either lane.