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Old 04-04-2025, 09:51 AM
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Absolutely you have the option. Where the issue starts, is if there's never a "break" in the oncoming traffic, so you never get to make the left turn and you're stuck blocking the intersection.

It's a judgement call.
If I read your post correctly, this refers to a turn with a signal light such as at Buena Vista and CR466A. Once the traffic light turns yellow, and even possibly red, you make the turn so as not to block the intersection.

My problem is with a second car who enters the intersection, tucking up close behind you.
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Old 04-04-2025, 09:57 AM
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How much time does it take for 1 or 2 cars to execute the turn? If you are paying attention, then as soon as the approaching traffic stops, off you go. The cross traffic will still be sitting at amber lights. Why would they choose to jump those and side-swipe you?
I do not know what the law is. But in busy intersections, it is often safer to sit back and wait at the stop bar then linger in the middle of the intersection and hope that you make the light before it turns red.
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Old 04-04-2025, 09:58 AM
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If you don't pull into the intersection during busy times you may sit there for several lights and end up in the midst of road rage from behind you lol.
How could that be if you are the first car in the line of cars waiting?
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Old 04-04-2025, 10:14 AM
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Totally wrong. If you’re past the white line and in the intersection before the red light you may proceed. There is no one car rule.
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The cars that have correctly entered the intersection, past the white line, all have the right of way to make their left turn before cross traffic can move.
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Can you provide any backup or a legal citation that says that?
316.075(1)(a)1 or 2 allows vehicles to enter the intersection to begin their left turn while they yield to oncoming traffic.

316.2061 allows traffic to enter the intersection as long as they don't block other traffic or the crosswalk.

Cars that have correctly entered the intersection can finish their turn. However, cars do not correctly enter the intersection if they block traffic or the crosswalk. There is no one car rule but if there is no room for car #2 to enter the intersection without blocking left turns from the oncoming traffic then only one car can properly enter the intersection.
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Old 04-04-2025, 11:06 AM
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Absolutely CORRECT & Thoughtful!!! Cars making a left turn on a green light should enter the intersection, which allows other cars behind them to follow behind them. Then, the car(s) should make their left turn when oncoming traffic does not pose a risk. This allows more cars to safely make left turns on a green light. Additionally, it is safer to start to make your left turn from the middle of the intersection because you are better able to judge when it is safe to do so from that position.
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Old 04-04-2025, 11:18 AM
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316.075(1)(a)1 or 2 allows vehicles to enter the intersection to begin their left turn while they yield to oncoming traffic.

316.2061 allows traffic to enter the intersection as long as they don't block other traffic or the crosswalk.

Cars that have correctly entered the intersection can finish their turn. However, cars do not correctly enter the intersection if they block traffic or the crosswalk. There is no one car rule but if there is no room for car #2 to enter the intersection without blocking left turns from the oncoming traffic then only one car can properly enter the intersection.
You are not blocking the crosswalk because that crosswalk has the red light. 2 cars can easily fit past the solid white line in most intersections. Those laws are on the books for when traffic is backed up on the other side of the intersection and there is no place to go.
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Old 04-04-2025, 11:27 AM
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You are not blocking the crosswalk because that crosswalk has the red light. 2 cars can easily fit past the solid white line in most intersections. Those laws are on the books for when traffic is backed up on the other side of the intersection and there is no place to go.
You read it your way and I'll read it mine.

When that second car easily fits past the solid white line but is sitting in the travel lane where it blocks oncoming vehicles from completing their left turn then it seem to me that it would be in violation of the section of 316.2061 that reads, "...without obstructing the passage of other vehicles..."
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Old 04-04-2025, 11:31 AM
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At intersections with stop lights, if I have a green light and am turning left, I nearly always pull into the intersection and continue my turn when oncoming traffic has cleared. I think the green light gives me permission to enter the intersection.
Others have said I should wait until oncoming traffic has cleared before I enter the intersection. If you choose one or the other, please tell me why you do what you do.
Is there a FL statute that covers this? Thanks
Do NOT enter the intersection. Stay back or the line until traffic clears.
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Old 04-04-2025, 11:55 AM
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Do NOT enter the intersection. Stay back or the line until traffic clears.
This is why nobody would want to be behind you at a turning lane going left.
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At intersections with stop lights, if I have a green light and am turning left, I nearly always pull into the intersection and continue my turn when oncoming traffic has cleared. I think the green light gives me permission to enter the intersection.
Others have said I should wait until oncoming traffic has cleared before I enter the intersection. If you choose one or the other, please tell me why you do what you do.
Is there a FL statute that covers this? Thanks
Drivers Ed many, many years ago indicated to take possession of the intersection and turn left when traffic clear or light allows to complete the turn.
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Old 04-04-2025, 01:43 PM
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Gee. I wonder why Florida is more like the northeast?🤔🧐
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If you go into the intersection before traffic has cleared you could find yourself right in the center as the light changes. For that reason you should wait until the intersection is clear. Notice that I said you should and I think cars behind anyone waiting will end up having angry drivers behind them resulting in horn blowing, “birds” flying, and road rage.
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If you go into the intersection before traffic has cleared you could find yourself right in the center as the light changes….
Exactly as it is supposed to work…then you complete your left turn when the opposing traffic stops.
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Only one car may enter the intersection as long as there was a green light for that vehicle. Another vehicle may not enter the intersection regardless of there is a green light as long as another vehicle is there. If you do enter the intersection prior to the other vehicle clearing it, and the light turns red, the first vehicle is ok as it must clear the intersection; the second vehicle will be ticketed. Bottom line, you may not enter an intersection to turn left if another car is waiting.
Please cite the statute that covers this?
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Old 04-05-2025, 06:36 AM
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Coming from NY, this is what we were always told to do: Entercthe inspection and wait to turn.
In Florida. We've seen many people just wait at the intersection for the green light to proceed. Is it old age or fear? To find out, I twice spoke with a Sumpter Cty. Deputy. Both said as long as you dont impede traffic, either is fine.
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