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Old 02-16-2021, 09:20 PM
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That seems obvious to me. Looking at properties on the Villages web site the first thing I do is study the map of the location. If it abuts non-villages property or is even close to non-villages property I immediately dismiss it.

What makes me scratch my head is seeing that listed as a "feature" of the house. I'm attaching a screen capture from the villages web site.

Who would think this is a "feature"???
Makes you aware......
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Old 02-17-2021, 06:11 AM
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If they aren't aware that 1) burning trash makes smoke, 2) smoke drifts when wind moves, 3) other people live nearby and 4) their trash burning might cause drifts of nasty noxious smoke to end up in a neighbor's house

then they're not very smart people.

If they are smart people, then they just don't care.

If they don't care, then they're definitely not a Christian church of ANY denomination of christianity.

If they are a Christian church of any denomination, then they shouldn't be.
Wow, always that one over the top...maybe they are just burning some brush, just as the villages construction does all the time when clearing off property....slow down on that coffee
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Old 02-17-2021, 06:19 AM
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Has the author spoken to the church officials yet? He doesn't say...I'm thinking that would be the first step rather than complain here. Being it's a church, and generally churches want to be neighborhood friendly, my guess is a friendly approach will solve the problem.
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Old 02-17-2021, 06:21 AM
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I purchases a new home in Hawkins, my property backs up to a church that regularly burns trash in their backyard area, apparently legally, the smoke can get very heavy and acrid at times, if I was aware of this prior to buying I believe I would have made a different choice, be advised
If you're referring to the large church on Warm Springs they burn cardboard boxes on Tue mornings because they run a food pantry for hundreds of needy families in the area who depend on the food donations to get by. They collect the food from many of the area distributors and all that food comes packed in boxes and they need to dispose of them. It is such a worthy operation run by the kindest people you could ever meet. Walk over there some morning and ask for Steve or Kathy who run the program, you may even end up volunteering! :-)
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Old 02-17-2021, 06:26 AM
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If they aren't aware that 1) burning trash makes smoke, 2) smoke drifts when wind moves, 3) other people live nearby and 4) their trash burning might cause drifts of nasty noxious smoke to end up in a neighbor's house

then they're not very smart people.

If they are smart people, then they just don't care.

If they don't care, then they're definitely not a Christian church of ANY denomination of christianity.

If they are a Christian church of any denomination, then they shouldn't be.
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Old 02-17-2021, 06:35 AM
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If you're referring to the large church on Warm Springs they burn cardboard boxes on Tue mornings because they run a food pantry for hundreds of needy families in the area who depend on the food donations to get by. They collect the food from many of the area distributors and all that food comes packed in boxes and they need to dispose of them. It is such a worthy operation run by the kindest people you could ever meet. Walk over there some morning and ask for Steve or Kathy who run the program, you may even end up volunteering! :-)
As Paul Harvey used to say, and that’s the rest of the story. So instead of contacting county commissioners, calling them Satan worshippers, or the other nonsense on the thread, how about going over and talking to them?You can volunteer to pick up all the boxes, break them down, and put them out with your trash. That is a way to solve the problem for everyone. But if this is another thread where people just like to complain and not find a solution, just keep complaining, there are plenty of people on here who will join in. I think complaining should be an official club in the villages.
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Old 02-17-2021, 06:40 AM
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Old 02-17-2021, 07:16 AM
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You used the phrase "apparently legal" and wrote they are burning trash. The state of Florida has regulations on open burning which can be found HERE.

Included is this regulation:

What materials are prohibited to be open burned in Florida?
Open burning of biological waste, hazardous waste, asbestos-containing materials, mercury-containing devices, pharmaceuticals, tires, rubber material, residual oil, used oil, asphalt, roofing material, tar, treated wood, plastics, garbage, or trash is strictly prohibited.

There is also a pdf of the regulations that can be found HERE

Burning of allowed material is also controlled with rules about the exact hours it is allowed, the size of the pile being burned, the requirement that fire extinguishing equipment be at the burn site, and that a person must be present while material is burning.

The church may very well be in violation of state regulations if they are doing what you describe.
Obviously the church is within guidelines and doing it legal or it would have stopped a long time ago. Im sure half the neighborhood bothers the sheriffs office with millions of calls each time theres a burn. It goes back to Buyer Beware
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Old 02-17-2021, 08:27 AM
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Obviously the church is within guidelines and doing it legal or it would have stopped a long time ago. Im sure half the neighborhood bothers the sheriffs office with millions of calls each time theres a burn. It goes back to Buyer Beware
It is not obvious that what they are doing is legal. It is not clear they have been doing it a long time as the OP's neighborhood is new. A posting above speculates, without evidence, that they are burning boxes. That would be illegal under all circumstances. The OP said they were burning trash, not yard waste. Even if it is yard waste, the church is not allowed to open burn.

A church, which is a non-residential facility has to comply with these rules: First the rules for a residence This is NOT the rule for a church

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Residential Yard Waste
Open burning of “yard waste” (defined as leaves, shrub trimmings, grass clippings, palm fronds, and brush) on residential premises of not more than two family units is allowed, provided that the below requirements in subsection 62-256.700(1), F.A.C., are met.

The yard waste must have been generated on the same premise as where it’s being open burned.
The open burning must occur between the hours of 8:00 AM CST (9:00 AM EST) to one hour before sunset.
The open burning must be enclosed in a noncombustible container or be in a pile no greater than eight feet in diameter.
The location of the open burn must be set back at least 150 feet from any occupied building other than that of the landowner, 50 feet from any paved public roadway, and 25 feet from any wildlands, brush, or combustible structure.
The open burning must be attended with fire extinguishing equipment ready at all times.
Next the rule for non-residential
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Other Non-Residential Open Burning

Open burning of vegetative waste, storm-generated or otherwise, at established industrial, commercial, institutional, or governmental properties is not explicitly allowed by state rules.

DEP recommends that these entities follow one of the below options for disposal of vegetative waste generated from their properties:

Recycle the vegetative waste by bringing a chipper on-site to create mulching material for reuse throughout the facility grounds;
Arrange to haul off the material from the property for off-site processing into mulch or disposal; or
Use of a portable air curtain incinerator operated in compliance with 62-210.300(3)(a)26, F.A.C.
Pursuant to 62-296.320(3), F.A.C., open burning in connection with industrial, commercial, institutional, or governmental operations may only be allowed when specifically authorized by DEP if:

Open burning is determined by DEP to be the only available method of disposal; and
It does not involve any material prohibited from being burned pursuant to Rule 62-256.300, F.A.C.
So please, don't suggest it is legal unless you can cite a source for your information. More likely they are saving money by not having to pay for trash collection.
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Old 02-17-2021, 08:32 AM
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Old 02-17-2021, 08:44 AM
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But if this is another thread where people just like to complain and not find a solution, just keep complaining, there are plenty of people on here who will join in. I think complaining should be an official club in the villages.
Wait, you mean it isn't an official club? Hard to be believe all the complainers all ended up here. Complaining is a Village pastime.
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Old 02-17-2021, 08:50 AM
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I purchases a new home in Hawkins, my property backs up to a church that regularly burns trash in their backyard area, apparently legally, the smoke can get very heavy and acrid at times, if I was aware of this prior to buying I believe I would have made a different choice, be advised
Could it be a campfire and kids making smores ?
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Old 02-17-2021, 08:50 AM
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The OP never said what/how the church was burning... just that they were.
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Old 02-17-2021, 09:36 AM
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This reminds me of a situation that happened back in my home-state. There was a letter to the local paper's editor complaining about the farm smells. It seems that OP had purchased some property that had been sectioned off from a local farmer that adjoined other farms and built a house. The complainer was angry because the farmer next door had the audaciousness to have cattle and pigs that emitted noxious odors. (Add sarcasm to that statement.) Said OP came later and not the farmer. I would say this might be the same here with the burning. Unless the rules have been changed for the church to burn, then maybe there's nothing that can be done. Go to the township and speak to them after speaking to the church leadership (or vice versa) to see if you can get resolution.
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Old 02-17-2021, 09:39 AM
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We own 13 acres inside city limits in our city in IN. This is zoned "agricultural" - 100 year old IN farm. Everything "grandfathered" in. We can have cows, pigs, etc. there, but we do not. The city grew around us.
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