[twoplanekid]

[QUOTE=gadaboutgal;1100216]

Originally Posted by twoplanekid

If the current rate of growth is sustained, the population of The Villages could reach 175,000 or more by the year 2030. How will this many people and the larger area encompassed change how we get around,,,,QUOTE]
The fallacy in your assumption is that all the population growth in Sumter County will occur in The Villages. That information is not stated in the state's projections. The Villages occupies only one little corner of Sumter (and Lake and Marion, also)-leaving plenty of space for other developers.

Please note that I didn't state what percentage of the projected growth would be in the Villages. However, I would expect that a good percentage of that growth would be attributed to the Villages continuing to grow.

Overall, it projects a substantial growth for this area of Florida and one that will impact how we travel in this region in 2030. Again, I assume that the Villages will be a part of this continued growth pattern as our developer does more than most other developers.

[Bogie Shooter]

On second thought the advice from Gracie should not be heeded!

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

On second thought the advice from Gracie should not be heeded!

Or not!

[Loudoll]

Originally Posted by billethkid

If we are going to day dream about some third party donating some form of rapid transit for TV I would ask how many communities over 100,000 in the USA has such a system?

The extrapolation assumes the growth at the supposed end of developement will continue at the pace of the past peak period rate.

I will leave this for all the heavy thinkers....I am going out and finish measuring the passing clouds!

You said Third Party !

[outlaw]

Why do you need to have quick access from northern tip to southern tip of TV? I live north of 466 and rarely have any desire to go to Brownwood or other areas in the southern tip of the current TV boundary. I have two town centers and several recreation centers within easy access where I live. Look at Ocala or Leesburg (or virtually any town in the 100K+ population size). Neither has easy and quick access throughout their municipal boundaries. I think the obvious solution is to increase the MMP speed limit....

[Taltarzac725]

Probably loops what come into play like with other densely populated areas with a way to get around.

I grew up in Reno, Nevada in the 1970s and remember they were starting to add more and more elevated highways and loops as quick ways to get around.

I sure hope that the Villages does not look like Tampa, Jacksonville, Miami, or other large Florida cities with all their business routes and the like.

There are some destinations like the Sharon now that draw people from pretty much any Village.

[graciegirl]

[QUOTE=twoplanekid;1100238]

Originally Posted by gadaboutgal

Please note that I didn't state what percentage of the projected growth would be in the Villages. However, I would expect that a good percentage of that growth would be attributed to the Villages continuing to grow.

Overall, it projects a substantial growth for this area of Florida and one that will impact how we travel in this region in 2030. Again, I assume that the Villages will be a part of this continued growth pattern as our developer does more than most other developers.

Howsomeever...it may remain the same or become less populated as Urbana, Ohio has done over time. I am amused that it causes you to think about it. So far, so good. The folks who have been thinking about the growth here so far have done pretty good. PRETTY GOOD. The best prediction of future behavior is past behavior. May the Morses live long and continue to prosper and us with them.

[Taltarzac725]

[QUOTE=graciegirl;1100348]

Originally Posted by twoplanekid

Howsomeever...it may remain the same or become less populated as Urbana, Ohio has done over time. I am amused that it causes you to think about it. So far, so good. The folks who have been thinking about the growth here so far have done pretty good. PRETTY GOOD. The best prediction of future behavior is past behavior. May the Morses live long and continue to prosper and us with them.

If it continues to be modeled on Disneyland and the like, maybe an elevated monorail. The cost of that though would probably be way too high for the Morses to put one in from Brownwood to Spanish Springs Square. And how would they explain this with their humorous histories of various Squares? Walt Disney stayed there in 1890? Time travel?

[graciegirl]

[QUOTE=Taltarzac725;1100358]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

If it continues to be modeled on Disneyland and the like, maybe an elevated monorail. The cost of that though would probably be way too high for the Morses to put one in from Brownwood to Spanish Springs Square. And how would they explain this with their humorous histories of various Squares? Walt Disney stayed there in 1890? Time travel?

That is why it is better left to them.


Traveling all over this place in the car is not a problem. Many of us are used to traveling all over in their car. I really enjoy the long golf cart rides to executive courses all over this town. It isn't the destination, it is the lovely journey that is enjoyed. BUT...you have to live here awhile to absorb that wisdom.

[Taltarzac725]

[QUOTE=graciegirl;1100361]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

That is why it is better left to them.


Traveling all over this place in the car is not a problem. Many of us are used to traveling all over in their car. I really enjoy the long golf cart rides to executive courses all over this town. It isn't the destination, it is the lovely journey that is enjoyed. BUT...you have to live here awhile to absorb that wisdom.

That's true. We have been here since June or July of 2005. There have been many changes since then. It is still fun to tool around in the golf cart. Driving the car though is often a pain in the neck at certain times.

[John_W]

I grew up in St. Petersburg, Florida. I can easily remember about 1960 when I was about 10 riding in a car on US Hwy 19 headed to Clearwater. We would travel on wide-open spaces like out in the country without seeing a building for miles. Finally after about 20 miles we saw a small highway sign that said, Courtney Campell Causeway Tampa with an arrow pointing to the right and an arrow pointing to the left that said "Clearwater Beach".

Today, this is US 19 & Hwy 60, and Hwy 19 continues like this for 60 miles until you reach Spring Hill and then it finally starts to thin out until you reach Crystal River.

[tomwed]

I live near Brownwood. I like jumping on 301 and being on the north west end of town fairly quickly. If there was a quick way to drive to the north east end of town that would be great.
I like mass transit. Sometime I take the village bus tour to catch up and I have nothing better to do. It would be great to me to jump on a bus and go to Ocala, Disney or a place I could pick up Amtrak or Greyhound. But it has to be affordable. Right now it cost more to get to Ocala than it does for someone in Ocala to get to Miami. What's up with that?
It's funny. When I was a kid in the Jersey City area looking at older people getting on the bus or subway with me it never occurred to me that could also be enjoying the ride and meeting new people not just trying to get to their destination ASAP like me.

[Bogie Shooter]

Why is a quick way needed?

[twoplanekid]

[QUOTE=graciegirl;1100348]

Originally Posted by twoplanekid

Howsomeever...it may remain the same or become less populated as Urbana, Ohio has done over time. I am amused that it causes you to think about it. So far, so good. The folks who have been thinking about the growth here so far have done pretty good. PRETTY GOOD. The best prediction of future behavior is past behavior. May the Morses live long and continue to prosper and us with them.

Funny you should bring that up as I just mentioned the Villages at an Urbana City Council meeting two weeks ago. As the Mayor and City council president are both class mates of mine, they tolerate my expressing my feelings about Urbana to others in attendance and on the local TV channel. My suggestions were to encourage everyone to tell others about Urbana in glowing terms and look at things differently or out of the box so to speak.

As most of you do with TV, I encourage people to visit Urbana and have kind thoughts about the community. When at EAA AirVenture in Oshkosh this year, I told people about the museums we have at Grimes Field and please fly in when in the area. I then invited local Urbana citizens to do the same when they travel about the country.

I then showed them my UMX Radian mod to suggest that they look at things differently. Will it fly? I told them that I now look at the phrase �growth can be a necessary evil� differently because of my new relationship with a community called the Villages in Florida. Growth can be exciting, fun, and make things possible that would be very difficult to achieve with a stagnant population. Almost all at the meeting suggested that they dust of the 2007 city growth plans for another look.

I love Urbana and will never lose that feeling I have for it as I/my wife plan our move to TV.


It does fly->

https://youtu.be/VGCbpuGeaUQ

[Bavarian]

Originally Posted by outlaw

Why do you need to have quick access from northern tip to southern tip of TV? I live north of 466 and rarely have any desire to go to Brownwood or other areas in the southern tip of the current TV boundary. I have two town centers and several recreation centers within easy access where I live. Look at Ocala or Leesburg (or virtually any town in the 100K+ population size). Neither has easy and quick access throughout their municipal boundaries. I think the obvious solution is to increase the MMP speed limit....

The only reason to go to Brownwood's Square is for Cody's at lunchtime for their excellent Philly Cheesesteak. Square 1 burgers is down that way whaic has a large selection of unusual types of meat for their ground patties. Otherwise no need to go there.