[Villageswimmer]

Originally Posted by CFrance

See, we don't just have to "suck it up" when TV does something we feel is wrong.

So right! Good lesson learned moving forward.

[outlaw]

Hmm. $25,000 savings over...let's say 25,000 homes. That works out to about 50 cents per person. It's your life, but it doesn't sound like a very good return on your time and heartburn invested. Don't spend it all in one place. Now back to MMP striping and maintenance fee increases...

[Challenger]

The money was never the point !!!! to me

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by Challenger

I have spoken with two supervisors , one as late as today to ascertain if the "amnesty payment " was in fact the total of all cost suffered by CDDs in this incident. I was told that they thought it was and that no further fines or costs would be incurred . But they wern't sure .??? For example , was a fine paid by the district as reported in several media? Will the be follow up was promissed a call back with confirmation.

If this is the case I, for one, will stop pushing for further action. If not . I will be back at it.

I hope that the pressure applied by these discussions on TOTV was a stong part of what brought the "Friends" to the table with a check and that they have spent a very uncomfortable 8 or 9 months. They have earned it.

Sounds like was about the money??

[Challenger]

To those who will not understand, no amount of explanation will suffuce.

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by Challenger

To those who will not understand, no amount of explanation will suffuce.

Isn't that the truth!

[biker1]

I agree 100%. Please don't waste your time trying to explain why people need to be held accountable for their actions. Some people get it and others don't.

Originally Posted by Challenger

To those who will not understand, no amount of explanation will suffuce.

[Cedwards38]

Justice either is a cherished principle or it is not. It's not all about the money. In fact it is not even mostly about the money. It's mostly about the principle of justice, and that people should not be allowed to silently sneak around justice or get away with buying their way out of facing justice.

Without a public outcry the perps would have gotten away with their deeds scot-free, and been perfectly content to allow the rest of us, even it it was only 50 cents a household, to suffer the consequences for them. They would have enjoyed whatever result they were attempting to achieve, and the "collective we" would have footed the bill.

I'm glad that money was brought forward to cover whatever part of the damages it covers, but they still are getting away without having to personally face up to their actions. Most of us would not have been able to do that, and rightfully so. That's not good justice, good citizenship, or good neighbors.

And if I live forever, I will never understand the logic of defending the perps actions, or the suggestions (read sarcastic harangue) that posters on this and other related threads should shut up and take it. I defend your right to think that, but I will never understand your rationale unless you explain it. Many pages ago in this thread I tried to explain why those of us who were incensed felt they way we did, and then respectfully invited anyone who disagreed to explain the rationale from the opposing view. To date, no one has done that other than to imply that they were tired of hearing about it. I would still appreciate the opportunity to read that rationale and better understand why you feel the way you do, and I suspect that others would like to see that too.

[Happydaz]

Originally Posted by Cedwards38

Justice either is a cherished principle or it is not. It's not all about the money. In fact it is not even mostly about the money. It's mostly about the principle of justice, and that people should not be allowed to silently sneak around justice or get away with buying their way out of facing justice.

Without a public outcry the perps would have gotten away with their deeds scot-free, and been perfectly content to allow the rest of us, even it it was only 50 cents a household, to suffer the consequences for them. They would have enjoyed whatever result they were attempting to achieve, and the "collective we" would have footed the bill.

I'm glad that money was brought forward to cover whatever part of the damages it covers, but they still are getting away without having to personally face up to their actions. Most of us would not have been able to do that, and rightfully so. That's not good justice, good citizenship, or good neighbors.

And if I live forever, I will never understand the logic of defending the perps actions, or the suggestions (read sarcastic harangue) that posters on this and other related threads should shut up and take it. I defend your right to think that, but I will never understand your rationale unless you explain it. Many pages ago in this thread I tried to explain why those of us who were incensed felt they way we did, and then respectfully invited anyone who disagreed to explain the rationale from the opposing view. To date, no one has done that other than to imply that they were tired of hearing about it. I would still appreciate the opportunity to read that rationale and better understand why you feel the way you do, and I suspect that others would like to see that too.

Great post! If people don't have respect for the law, then respect for the individual is also compromised and then the Outlaws take over!

[Challenger]

Originally Posted by Cedwards38

Justice either is a cherished principle or it is not. It's not all about the money. In fact it is not even mostly about the money. It's mostly about the principle of justice, and that people should not be allowed to silently sneak around justice or get away with buying their way out of facing justice.

Without a public outcry the perps would have gotten away with their deeds scot-free, and been perfectly content to allow the rest of us, even it it was only 50 cents a household, to suffer the consequences for them. They would have enjoyed whatever result they were attempting to achieve, and the "collective we" would have footed the bill.

I'm glad that money was brought forward to cover whatever part of the damages it covers, but they still are getting away without having to personally face up to their actions. Most of us would not have been able to do that, and rightfully so. That's not good justice, good citizenship, or good neighbors.

And if I live forever, I will never understand the logic of defending the perps actions, or the suggestions (read sarcastic harangue) that posters on this and other related threads should shut up and take it. I defend your right to think that, but I will never understand your rationale unless you explain it. Many pages ago in this thread I tried to explain why those of us who were incensed felt they way we did, and then respectfully invited anyone who disagreed to explain the rationale from the opposing view. To date, no one has done that other than to imply that they were tired of hearing about it. I would still appreciate the opportunity to read that rationale and better understand why you feel the way you do, and I suspect that others would like to see that too.

Wish that I had said that!!!

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by Happydaz

Great post! If people don't have respect for the law, then respect for the individual is also compromised and then the Outlaws take over!

Too many laws these days are selectively enforced....unfortunately!

[TheVillageChicken]

Originally Posted by billethkid

Too many laws these days are selectively enforced....unfortunately!

I was thinking about this a couple of days ago when I saw a road sign that said, "Speed Limits Strictly Enforced". Does that mean we can haul butt when the word "strictly" is absent?

[outlaw]

It's one thing to complain about being charged for the actions of another, even though the cost to any individual is minor, IMO. But, then, when the cost issue goes away, many still can't let it go. Many of you come across as vindictive. You hint that the authorities are circumventing the judicial system, or there is some conspiracy between the governing bodies and the guilty parties. You suggest the sheriff's department is withholding information. Let's face it. You want your pound of flesh and will not be satisfied until the guilty are outed and humiliated.

[asianthree]

Originally Posted by outlaw

It's one thing to complain about being charged for the actions of another, even though the cost to any individual is minor, IMO. But, then, when the cost issue goes away, many still can't let it go. Many of you come across as vindictive. You hint that the authorities are circumventing the judicial system, or there is some conspiracy between the governing bodies and the guilty parties. You suggest the sheriff's department is withholding information. Let's face it. You want your pound of flesh and will not be satisfied until the guilty are outed and humiliated.

I really don't think that most want a pound of flesh. But I'm banking that those two trees that are along Penacamp drive that block the view of the pond ( or any village) might someday disappear. Because precedent has been set with just a fine. Is all they'll have to do is find the right landscaper to cut them down.

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by asianthree

I really don't think that most want a pound of flesh. But I'm banking that those two trees that are along Penacamp drive that block the view of the pond ( or any village) might someday disappear. Because precedent has been set with just a fine. Is all they'll have to do is find the right landscaper to cut them down.

I don't think you should worry about that. I'm sure the Miona Lake people learned their lesson.