[cafw1]

In response to those who suggest being nice and talking to the offender. There are people out there who refuse to talk sensibly. They won't acknowledge that they are breaking laws/rules and they make up things and say they are covered under a law that does NOT include them ---an example being the easement rules which only apply to utility companies and the developer. Please don't blame the victims in these situations. Blame those who believe they are exempt from laws.

[Chellybean]

Originally Posted by Mike123

Is this the new norm? Trespassing when doing work on a neighbors property. Not asking for permission? Not repairing damage done to my lawn? Seems like people are just rude, think they can ask for forgiveness instead of permission. I don't recall any easements to my property that allow neighbors landscapers to drive vehicles and other equipment over my property causing ruts and changing the landscaping on my property while doing work on their customers. Do I really have to get legal and take both the neighbor and the landscaper to small claims court? Seems like good manors would dictate they ask if any damage was done and just repair it. Is there any venue to report this at the villages?

there are a lot of AHOLE neighbors in the villages that take liberties I would never take.
I had neighbors on both side come on my property with contractors not once, not twice but five times and never repaired damage, finally after five years of there 175 feet of landscaping growing on to my property where a 5 foot a special easement exist i had them rip it out.
People don't care about encroaching on someone's property as long as there property is ok, its called Villager entitlement. the trespassing laws are one of the best in Florida in the country;
810.08 Trespass in structure or conveyance.
810.09 Trespass on property other than structure or conveyance.

If unreasonable or arrogance exist then you don't have good neighbors anyways so don't put up with it!!
JMHO

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by davem4616

I understand your sense of being taken for granted....I've felt that way too at times with various contractors here in the villages doing work on my street

Ya just have to relax a little and politely speak up

the fellow that cuts the grass for the house next to us constantly parks his truck/trailer in such a way that when he opens the trailer gate it extends half way across the front of my driveway and he was leaving it down

I finally went out to the kid (and he is a young man) and asked him if he would close the gate to his trailer once he pulls his mower out, incase I needed to back out of my garage.

The kid was fine with that and did that. He came again today while I was out, when I returned, the tail gate was down, halfway across my driveway

If I cut grass all day in the hot sun, I'd most likely be constantly on 'auto pilot' too....
not a lot you can do about it...they are what they are

And that is why I always cut my OWN grass. The grass maintenance people are poor and from the lower ladder of society, which is to be blamed on ALL of society, not just the failings of the individual. Be that as it may, the grass cutters tell their friends when TV Landers are away and who has what power tools. Their friends break into the houses, then pawn the stolen equipment - then the grass cutters or other workers get a kickback for the information. With riding lawnmowers so available, most TV Landers should be capable of doing their own grass cutting - and whenever possible, other maintenance should be done by trusted retired Villagers. This would cut down on TV Land crime (that DOES exist even though the newspaper deemphasizes it)! And NEVER leave your doors unlocked - the Neighborhood Watch people are useless! Cameras can help.

[DAVES]

Originally Posted by cafw1

I have the same problem. I did contact the neighbor and she was rude and actually threatened me---I should have reported that to the police but I thought we could amicably solve the problem---I thought wrong. She tells workers that they can come onto my property because there is an easement. NOT TRUE. There are easements on our properties but they only protect utility companies and the developer. They don't apply to lawn cutters, roofers etc. There are legal measures that you can enforce. If you call the local sheriff they will explain it and they are nice. Good luck. If we don't stop these people from doing what they want to do The Villages will become a not so nice place to live.

I negotiated things for a living. Like most things there is an art to it. Before things get out of hand, it can be wise to retreat. I see you are busy now, when would be a better time for you? Never back anyone into a corner always allow them an obvious turn off the road to confrontation. It is always harder to get the result you want after a hostile confrontation.

Whatever your neighbor said a licensed contractor knows the law. Someone you hire off the street because they are cheap, you may find as in other issues that you pay for it once and then again to get it done right.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Chi-Town

On the other hand one should be thankful that their neighbor is maintaining and/or improving their property.

That's one way to find a "silver lining".

[DAVES]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

And that is why I always cut my OWN grass. The grass maintenance people are poor and from the lower ladder of society, which is to be blamed on ALL of society, not just the failings of the individual. Be that as it may, the grass cutters tell their friends when TV Landers are away and who has what power tools. Their friends break into the houses, then pawn the stolen equipment - then the grass cutters or other workers get a kickback for the information. With riding lawnmowers so available, most TV Landers should be capable of doing their own grass cutting - and whenever possible, other maintenance should be done by trusted retired Villagers. This would cut down on TV Land crime (that DOES exist even though the newspaper deemphasizes it)! And NEVER leave your doors unlocked - the Neighborhood Watch people are useless! Cameras can help.

Reality. If, someone robs your home it is usually an unplanned crime. A ridding mower?
It may be expensive however the criminal was seen escaping on a riding mower is a bit comical. They want, and will take stuff that is easily to sell and small.

Further reality. If, you chose to hit a thief with say a baseball bat, he will get free medical care paid for by your tax money and he will be back on the street before you will.

Where we are and how we got here.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by cafw1

I have the same problem. I did contact the neighbor and she was rude and actually threatened me---I should have reported that to the police but I thought we could amicably solve the problem---I thought wrong. She tells workers that they can come onto my property because there is an easement. NOT TRUE. There are easements on our properties but they only protect utility companies and the developer. They don't apply to lawn cutters, roofers etc. There are legal measures that you can enforce. If you call the local sheriff they will explain it and they are nice. Good luck. If we don't stop these people from doing what they want to do The Villages will become a not so nice place to live.

I agree with you! If that neighbor is rude and takes advantage of you once it will likely happen again. And the same for the landscapers. If the person starting this thread fights for their position and rights, it helps ALL other Villagers because the neighbor and the landscapers will have been put on notice that their actions were WRONG and offensive. They could contact the Police and The Villages Office - also they could reveal the name of the landscaper on this or other local forums. Rudeness and lack of empathy need the oxygen of an opaque environment. Transparency can help a local situation and probably all situations - with the exception of national spying operations.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by DAVES

Personal experience as far as the Villages aren't going to help you. Years ago our neighbor hired a landscaper. They intruded onto our property with a cement construction. Our neighbor was very nice agreed to have the people move it.

The landscaper came over to swear at me. Stuff like he is the expert etc. I told him
I will check with the villages. The villages quickly came over. Looked and confirmed it was on my property. The landscaper had not filed a REQUIRED PLAN. The villagers told my neighbor and the contractor that he would not be paid till he filed a plan and corrected the issues. I of course took pictures. It was a bit of a surprise that the work was done carefully and they did not damage my property out of spite. My neighbor later told me that the guy he hired was arrested shorty after. The Villages did get involved and the person they sent was very professional at not escalating the issue.

A lot of the landscaping and Maintainance workers are NOT of good character. Like anything else, most of them are probably honest and hardworking good people. It is the rotten apples that will treat the OLDER Villagers as EASY MARKS and sources of income - TV Landers MUST stay aware - this is NOT Disneyland, a place devoid of CRIME!

Actually, if you live here long enough, you will begin to see a real underbelly to TV Land. I have not seen that recent documentary that reveals much about TV Land. Rumor has it that way back there was a book published that the owners did NOT want to be circulated. So, they bought up all copies. This could be just hearsay and rumors about "skeletons in the closet" of Adult Disneyland?

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by DAVES

I negotiated things for a living. Like most things there is an art to it. Before things get out of hand, it can be wise to retreat. I see you are busy now, when would be a better time for you? Never back anyone into a corner always allow them an obvious turn off the road to confrontation. It is always harder to get the result you want after a hostile confrontation.

Whatever your neighbor said a licensed contractor knows the law. Someone you hire off the street because they are cheap, you may find as in other issues that you pay for it once and then again to get it done right.

Good post and good advice!

[Velvet]

I saw my one if my neighbors on my property (without my permission) near the flowerbed. Took a closer look at the camera video to see what he was doing. He was fixing one of my solar lights the wind had blown down. Terrible! Typical Villager!

[joelfmi]

What I have learned in the Village on residence treads has been very inlighting and they been very informative and sobering which you will not learn on video's of the villages made by your inhabits on various website that advertise the senior community. Thank you for being informative.

[Mike123]

Seems simple just repair it.

[joelfmi]

My experience with DYI has been a disaster myself being a master trade specialist have seen it all and some have caused themselves major injuries, property damages and death, just read the news.I tell DYI it's alway cheaper to hire a licensed trades men than to pay for medical treatment after you get hurt or property damages but I am preaching to the choir when I tell them that.

[Mike123]

Property owner be aware is my message.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by stanley

Sounds like double speak to me
What's the difference between "a lot of" and "most of"?