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Here is the link to the story..
https://youtu.be/xou1Spau5DE?si=x0xqtWYTUn52iXaA
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Possibly not which could be why he was trespassed. But details matter and we are hearing only one, fairly biased side of the story.
Here is the story!!
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The Guy was standing on the corner, up in lake Sumter. NOT IN THE SQUARE.
POLICE showed up because of a phone call from “THE VILLAGES “ asking to Trespass him. The police showed up and told him he is being trespassed.
And if he didn’t leave, he would be arrested. He was polite and so was the police officers. So he moved on. Now here is the problem……
THEY VIOLATED HIS 1st AMENDMENT RIGHTS …
Did they or did they exercise their right to choose the activities allowed on District properties?
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My guess he was suspected of panhandling.
Well you’re wrong there. Panhandling is NOT Illegal, You can’t harass people when your standing there… That’s Illegal..
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Did they or did they exercise their right to choose the activities allowed on District properties?
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Yeah, I saw that the other three times it was posted. Thanks for making my point though; he was asked to leave District property due to his actions.
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Reed vs Town of Gilbert doesn't mention HOA's, in any way.

Deed Restrictions are private agreements and the 1st Amendment doesn't apply to private entities, nor does the US Constitution regulate private contracts.

If you paid an attorney for that legal opinion, is it too late to request a refund?
SCOTUS doesn't need to restate the power of a constitutional right. A constitutional right is absolute. If you surrender it, you can reclaim it at any time. The most common thing maost people might recognize is related to Miranda. You can remain silent, or waive that right and talk, but you may reclaim the right at any time.

CDDs and ARC exist under Florida State authority. As a government extension, they cannot legally enforce an unconstitutional restriction. Even if a resident does not formally reclaim that right.

If CDDs and ARC are not a state entity, why do they display Florida state license plates? Only state agencies can do that. They are bound by that case. Like it or not.
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[QUOTE=Bill14564;2459179]Did they or did they exercise their right to choose the activities allowed on District properties?[/QUOTE

That corner is not district property.. And the Cop should of investigated that.. Not just listen to the dispatcher. He can be held accountable, and lose his qualified immunity.
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That corner is not district property.. And the Cop should of investigated that.. Not just listen to the dispatcher. He can be held accountable, and lose his qualified immunity.
Maybe, maybe not. That would likely be a detail in a legal agreement somewhere. Unquestionably, the land those sidewalks were built on was private at one time. The maintenance of the roads was turned over to the County which required them to be accessible to the public. But was the land turned over as well and if so, did that include the land under the sidewalk? If the man decides to try and sue the District then maybe we'll find out.
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By any chance is there a link to a video so we can all see what happened?
Go to you tube search TRESPASSED FOREVER FROM THREE COUNTIESAND 57 SQUARE MILES and u can watch video only about 8 minutes long…
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Go to you tube search TRESPASSED FOREVER FROM THREE COUNTIESAND 57 SQUARE MILES and u can watch video only about 8 minutes long…
Of course, if I want to find something about the Villages I should search on "three counties" or "57 square miles." But that's okay... you apparently haven't notice yet that the link has been provided in at least four posts so far.
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SCOTUS doesn't need to restate the power of a constitutional right. A constitutional right is absolute. If you surrender it, you can reclaim it at any time. The most common thing maost people might recognize is related to Miranda. You can remain silent, or waive that right and talk, but you may reclaim the right at any time.

CDDs and ARC exist under Florida State authority. As a government extension, they cannot legally enforce an unconstitutional restriction. Even if a resident does not formally reclaim that right.

If CDDs and ARC are not a state entity, why do they display Florida state license plates? Only state agencies can do that. They are bound by that case. Like it or not.
You can keep saying the same thing over and over, it will still be wrong.

When you bought in The Villages, you bought a home with Deed Restrictions. The District was not a party to that transaction.

There is nothing inherently illegal about Deed Restrictions, provided they don't discriminate agains a protected class. Private transactions are not protected by the 1st Amendment, nor are "signs" protected by the 1st Amendment. If signs were protected by the 1st Amendment, cities and towns wouldn't be able to adopt sign regulations. The 1st Amendment is the Right of Free Speech ... it is not "The Right to Post and/or Carry Signs".
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Mid afternoon on a public sidewalk.the sign was handwritten on a piece of cardboard,size was approx 12x16 it’s said got bless the homeless vets….:bigbow…
1st Amendment right, he/she is 100% legal except in Courtyard Villages where the roads are private & the Villas are private pproperty.
Everywhere else the Sidewalks & Roads are all Public...
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Here is the link to the story..
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Everyone was reasonably polite, but the guy with badge, needs a lot more training and understanding of his job. Where did he come up with the "semi-public" thing?

You would think a local LEO would know the roads and sidewalks of The Villages are public property?

I assume some people recognized where he was standing? Was it on a public street? I'd venture a guess, that the guy with the sign knows the difference, knows he was in the right and there's a lawsuit coming ... as there should be. If the LEO wasn't sure, he should have checked with a superior, instead of spouting off nonsense.

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You can't be trespassed from public property/forum. Loitering, perhaps but not trespassing!

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