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I did find this which seems to imply that the Sumter County police officer was right. Or, maybe he is with Lady Lake. Or, even maybe Marion. Things are a little complicated
around here.


One thing seems certain though is that this has little to do with homeless vets and a lot more with trolls seeking money from lawsuits.
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And IMHO God bless them all! Government, at all levels, increasingly violates citizens' Constitutional rights unceasingly. Many cops are totally ignorant on many aspects of the laws they are paid to enforce and frequently violate many rights they have sworn to protect, particularly Constitutional law/rights; others just don't care. Hand them a gun and badge and some quickly become tyrants. And this abuse is increasing at an alarming rate. And NO, I am not anti-cop - I am anti BAD cops. These "auditors" provide VALUABLE education to police departments across the country and do yeoman's work in helping to keep our rights intact.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTz1SwRdldw

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once arrested and accused you are guilty till prove your innocences…..think about it? You have to get lawyer prepare defense and go to justice system and plead your defense/case.

How many read/watch videos on accused crimes and already prejudiced?
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Yeah, I saw that the other three times it was posted. Thanks for making my point though; he was asked to leave District property due to his actions.
He was standing on public property. There was nothing about his actions that would warrant being asked to leave it. He wasn't soliciting for donations, he wasn't trying to stop anyone to engage with them, his sign didn't say anything offensive (unless you're anti-god, anti-homeless, or anti-veteran I suppose). He wasn't blocking the sidewalk or preventing anyone else from using it in any way, he wasn't littering. He was literally standing there holding up a "God Bless The Homeless Vets" sign and giving a friendly wave to people passing by.

I'd give him points off for the low quality of the sign, he probably should get it printed professionally if he's going to use it in further videos, but that's just me being critical of hand-made signs on cardboard.
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I did find this which seems to imply that the Sumter County police officer was right. Or, maybe he is with Lady Lake. Or, even maybe Marion. Things are a little complicated
around here.


One thing seems certain though is that this has little to do with homeless vets and a lot more with trolls seeking money from lawsuits.
The sidewalk isn't in an HOA. And there's nothing on that website that covers the USE of a public sidewalk on a public street, or the rights or responsibilities of pedestrians.
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He was standing on public property. There was nothing about his actions that would warrant being asked to leave it. He wasn't soliciting for donations, he wasn't trying to stop anyone to engage with them, his sign didn't say anything offensive (unless you're anti-god, anti-homeless, or anti-veteran I suppose). He wasn't blocking the sidewalk or preventing anyone else from using it in any way, he wasn't littering. He was literally standing there holding up a "God Bless The Homeless Vets" sign and giving a friendly wave to people passing by.

I'd give him points off for the low quality of the sign, he probably should get it printed professionally if he's going to use it in further videos, but that's just me being critical of hand-made signs on cardboard.
You call it public property and I call it District property. You counter that it is adjacent to a public road and I point out that the road was built by the Villages on land owned by the Villages and while maintenance was probably turned over to the county that doesn’t necessarily mean that ownership of the land was turned over to the county.

The sign is part of his schtick, not a mistake in any way.
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You call it public property and I call it District property. You counter that it is adjacent to a public road and I point out that the road was built by the Villages on land owned by the Villages and while maintenance was probably turned over to the county that doesn’t necessarily mean that ownership of the land was turned over to the county.

The sign is part of his schtick, not a mistake in any way.

Good points!

The address for the call for help came from a Villages office in Lake Sumter Landing. That does look like Villages' property including the sidewalk.


This guy tries to provoke a response that allows him to take it to his lawyer or lawyers.

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IMO

once arrested and accused you are guilty till prove your innocences…..think about it? You have to get lawyer prepare defense and go to justice system and plead your defense/case.

How many read/watch videos on accused crimes and already prejudiced?
So what would be the alternative? Complaining is great, but without a solution or alternative, it's merely noise.
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He is a vet
I already knew that; I have seen some of his videos on YouTube. My point is he doesn't have to be a vet to express that sentiment

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I don't need to do that. I deal with this stuff for a living and have a very good understanding of how it works.

Unlike many on this thread, i don't have to run to Google and decide what my opinion or position is.

You apparently have little or no experience with real estate property rights, because your conclusion is dead wrong. I can sell a parcel of land, with a restriction that "No Billboards" be erected. What I can't do, is sell a parcel of land and prohibit only billboards that attack LBGQT folks. Sometimes you don't have to run to AI to get a Constitutional question answered, one can sometimes rely on simply common sense.

Also, if you're going to quote the Supreme Court's decision in Reed, you perhaps should read it again. The Decision says that signs absolutely can be regulated by government, provided regulations are "content neutral". The Decision says sign regulations cannot be based on message or subject (content).

The ruling says that blanket restrictions against signs are unconstitutional. Content neutral is only part of the ruling. Also says no random arbitrary restrictions are allowed. Your example would not float.

It shows that you "don't need to read the decision" yet are pontificating it incorrectly. I guess you know it all and there is no reasoning possible because you continue to advocate an opinion that is contradicted in the actual examples SCOTUS published.
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The ruling says that blanket restrictions against signs are unconstitutional. Content neutral is only part of the ruling. Also says no random arbitrary restrictions are allowed. Your example would not float.

It shows that you "don't need to read the decision" yet are pontificating it incorrectly. I guess you know it all and there is no reasoning possible because you continue to advocate an opinion that is contradicted in the actual examples SCOTUS published.
The Developer & The Villages spend millions of dollars a year on legal fees. They continue to sell 1000's of homes every year, with Deed Restrictions.

The Developers (Uihlein family) of Lakewood Ranch in Sarasota, sell even more, all with Deed Restrictions.

It makes me wonder why the Morse's & Uihlein family spend millions on attorneys, when the answers are right here on ToTV.

"No More Deed Restrictions, per ToTV".
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I follow him on YouTube. He will get the trespass rescinded, send an intent to sue, and ask for the sheriffs dept to have additional 1st and 4 th amendment training, and ask for $1788 to be donated to a veterans homeless shelter (the year the constitution was ratified)
He wins all the time because he is allowed to do what he did and where he did it.
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And IMHO God bless them all! Government, at all levels, increasingly violates citizens' Constitutional rights unceasingly. Many cops are totally ignorant on many aspects of the laws they are paid to enforce and frequently violate many rights they have sworn to protect, particularly Constitutional law/rights; others just don't care. Hand them a gun and badge and some quickly become tyrants. And this abuse is increasing at an alarming rate. And NO, I am not anti-cop - I am anti BAD cops. These "auditors" provide VALUABLE education to police departments across the country and do yeoman's work in helping to keep our rights intact.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTz1SwRdldw

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This is the Villages video URL everyone is asking for... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xou1Spau5DE


Did some research. Yes, It was Jeff Gray. He's a retired truck driver and vet. He runs a Youtube channel called HonorYourOath. He tests municipalities and city's to make sure your 1st, 4th, and 5th amendment rights are being protected. I watched at least 30 of his vids. He is NEVER rude, unless the police are. He litigates the cities/police who are either ignorant or blatantly violate the amendments with local unconstitutional ordinances. URL of the channel below.

HonorYourOath Civil Rights Investigations - YouTube

This additional vid below will explain his purpose. Also in this vid (at 2:20) is Officer Jake Hillier from the Jacksonville Sheriff's Office greeting and shaking Jeff Gray's hand because he supports what Jeff is doing. I know Officer Hillier personally and he is an incredible person and police officer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wr5f4E8l2WU

I'm assuming most of you believe police encounters are positive as I do; even that speeding ticket . But there are still too many government authorities (police or otherwise) who get offended and violent if you simply challenge your detainment verbally. Furthermore, those authorities are often backed by a system that will protect them no matter if it's absolutely clear there corrupt. If you don't think so; watches these vids.

Joffrion Can’t Recall BodyCam Policy - YouTube
Joffrion Can’t Recall Trespass Laws - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Y7KgTltTUjc
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I believe the intent of the auditor's actions are to drive visitors to his page and money into his pocket.

To the OP: Most of the roads are public/county but the sidewalks are either on private land owned by Sumter Landing CDD (SLCDD) or they are owned by the municipality which is the SLCDD. He wanted to draw attention to himself and provoke the police. He succeeded in that but it seems he didn't do quite enough due diligence.
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